<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068</id><updated>2011-11-27T16:13:17.779-08:00</updated><category term='gpt'/><category term='immigration'/><category term='tsa'/><category term='privacy'/><category term='civil liberties'/><category term='baltimore'/><category term='puff machine'/><category term='secret law'/><category term='reagan national'/><category term='Boston'/><category term='alternative ID'/><category term='record of travelers'/><category term='MCI'/><category term='intentionally ambiguous'/><category term='American'/><category term='jfk'/><category term='successful'/><category term='LAX'/><category term='local police'/><category term='id checkers'/><category term='Lost ID'/><category term='kids'/><category term='expired id'/><category term='International'/><category term='midway'/><category term='Chose to not show ID'/><category term='Completely ID free'/><category term='airtran'/><category term='Philadelphia'/><category term='Continental'/><category term='dfw'/><category term='Newark'/><category term='austin'/><category term='secure flight'/><category term='realid'/><category term='Southwest'/><category term='San'/><category term='Cho'/><category term='tsa enforcing corporate policy'/><category term='Burbank'/><category term='LGA'/><category term='United'/><category term='iah'/><category term='isp'/><category term='Delta'/><category term='Unsuccessful'/><category term='San Francisco'/><category term='portland'/><category term='virgin islands'/><title type='text'>How to Fly without ID</title><subtitle type='html'>Exercise your right to travel without showing identification to the government. Share your experiences with the TSA.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>51</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6312975558524166231</id><published>2008-07-21T14:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T14:23:00.762-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Problems with new TSA id procedures</title><content type='html'>from: &lt;a href="http://papersplease.org/wp/2008/07/08/tsa-identity-verification-procedures/"&gt;http://papersplease.org/wp/2008/07/08/tsa-identity-verification-procedures/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a series of posts in their blog, the TSA has expanded on its&lt;br&gt;claimed authority for the changes to &amp;quot;ID verificationprocedures&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;announced in a press release last month.&lt;p&gt;Lawmaking by press release exemplifies the evils of &amp;quot;secret law&amp;quot; which&lt;br&gt;the Supreme Court declined to consider in Gilmore v. Gonzalez. The TSA&lt;br&gt;now says that, &amp;quot;Our position is that Gilmore v. Gonzalez affirmed our&lt;br&gt;ability to require ID for transportation via air and the law that&lt;br&gt;formed TSA, the Aviation and Transportation Security Act (ATSA)&lt;br&gt;empowers the TSA to make these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;In fact:&lt;p&gt;   1. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Gilmore v. Gonzalez reached&lt;br&gt;its decision without addressing whether it would have been permissible&lt;br&gt;for the airline or the TSA (or anyone else) to require Mr. Gilmore to&lt;br&gt;show evidence of his identity, or to prevent him from travelling if he&lt;br&gt;failed to do so. The court found that, as of that time and in that&lt;br&gt;particular case, Mr. Gilmore could have flown without showing ID.&lt;br&gt;   2. The section of the statute cited by the TSA in its press release&lt;br&gt;and blog grants the TSA authority to issue certain regulations. But&lt;br&gt;such regulations must be issued in a particular way, published in the&lt;br&gt;Federal Register for comment, etc. Whatever they have done in secret,&lt;br&gt;the TSA has not, in fact, issued any actual &amp;quot;regulations&amp;quot; requiring&lt;br&gt;would-be passengers to display evidence of their identity, or to&lt;br&gt;answer questions related to their identity.&lt;br&gt;   3. If the TSA were to promulgate such regulations, they would&lt;br&gt;exceed the authority granted by the statute cited by the TSA, which&lt;br&gt;defines TSA authority to limit access to &amp;quot;sterile&amp;quot; areas in airports&lt;br&gt;as limited to screening for weapons, explosives, and incendiaries —&lt;br&gt;not absent or unsatisfactory evidence of identity.&lt;br&gt;   4. Finally, any statute purporting to grant the TSA such authority&lt;br&gt;— were one to be enacted, which it hasn&amp;#39;t been — would have to pass&lt;br&gt;muster under both Constitutional and international human rights treaty&lt;br&gt;standards.&lt;p&gt;So the question isn&amp;#39;t what authority the TSA has to issue regulations&lt;br&gt;for screening, but what authority they have to compel answers to&lt;br&gt;questions, to compel production of documentary evidence, or to prevent&lt;br&gt;or delay people from travelling, in the absence of regulations or&lt;br&gt;statutory authority for such actions.&lt;p&gt;But that&amp;#39;s not all. The TSA&amp;#39;s new &amp;quot;procedures&amp;quot; may violate several other laws:&lt;p&gt;   1. Pursuant to the Regulatory Flexibility Act, an agency may not&lt;br&gt;conduct, and a person is not required to respond to, a collection of&lt;br&gt;information unless the collection of information displays a valid&lt;br&gt;control number assigned by the Office of Management and Budget&lt;br&gt;following publication of the proposal for the information collection&lt;br&gt;in the Federal Register, and an opportunity for public comment. We&lt;br&gt;haven&amp;#39;t seen any OMB control number on any TSA signs requesting the&lt;br&gt;collection of either ticket or identity document information, and we&lt;br&gt;can find no record of any Federal Register notice of a TSA proposal to&lt;br&gt;collect either sort of information from travellers. If the TSA asks&lt;br&gt;you to complete any sort of ticket or identity verification form, look&lt;br&gt;for the OMB control number. If there is one, let us know what it is.&lt;br&gt;(We&amp;#39;d love to see a copy of the actual form as well.) If there&amp;#39;s no&lt;br&gt;OMB control number, politely remind the TSA that they aren&amp;#39;t allowed&lt;br&gt;to collect this information, and you aren&amp;#39;t required to provide it.&lt;br&gt;   2. Under the Privacy Act, it is a crime for a Federal employee to&lt;br&gt;operate a system of records without providing notice — both in a&lt;br&gt;System of Records Notice in the Federal Register, and when requesting&lt;br&gt;information from individuals — of the authority for the system and the&lt;br&gt;ways the information will be used. We haven&amp;#39;t seen any Privacy Act&lt;br&gt;notices being provided to travellers when they are asked to show their&lt;br&gt;tickets and identity documents, and we can&amp;#39;t find any record of a SORN&lt;br&gt;in the Federal Register for any system of records of tickets or&lt;br&gt;passenger ID for domestic flights within the US. If this information&lt;br&gt;is to be recorded, ask to see a Privacy Act notice for what system it&lt;br&gt;will be stored in and how it will be used. (if you can get one, please&lt;br&gt;send us a copy of this notice.) And remind the TSA politely that&lt;br&gt;anyone who is storing it without such a published notice is committing&lt;br&gt;a Federal crime.&lt;br&gt;   3. The TSA has admitted in their blog that they are using &amp;quot;public&lt;br&gt;source&amp;quot; information about would-be travellers to determine whether to&lt;br&gt;allow them to fly. But under Section 513 of the Consolidated&lt;br&gt;Appropriations Act, 2007 (P.L. 110-161, H.R. 2764), &amp;quot;(d) … (a), no&lt;br&gt;information gathered from passengers, foreign or domestic air&lt;br&gt;carriers, or reservation systems may be used to screen aviation&lt;br&gt;passengers, or delay or deny boarding to such passengers, except in&lt;br&gt;instances where passenger names are matched to a Government watch&lt;br&gt;list.&amp;quot; It&amp;#39;s unclear if the new TSA identity verification procedures&lt;br&gt;are limited to passengers whose names match those on watch lists, but&lt;br&gt;it seems unlikely. So if you are stopped or delayed by the TSA, on the&lt;br&gt;basis of the information you have provided (including on the basis of&lt;br&gt;that infomation being nonexistent because you decline to provide it,&lt;br&gt;as any attorney would probably advise you to decline to do), remind&lt;br&gt;the TSA that they are forbidden by law from taking any such action&lt;br&gt;without an actual match of your name with a watch list.&lt;br&gt;   4. Perhaps most importantly, Section 513 of the Consolidated&lt;br&gt;Appropriations Act, 2007 (P.L. 110-161, H.R. 2764), also provides&lt;br&gt;that, &amp;quot;(f) None of the funds provided in this or any other Act may be&lt;br&gt;used for data or a database that is obtained from or remains under the&lt;br&gt;control of a non-Federal entity&amp;quot;. It&amp;#39;s unclear what exactly the TSA&lt;br&gt;means by &amp;quot;public source&amp;quot; identity verification data, but if that data&lt;br&gt;comes from a commercial source — as it likely does — and if the TSA&lt;br&gt;has paid for it — as they likely have — they are breaking the law.&lt;br&gt;(For what it&amp;#39;s worth, this is a slightly different sub-section of the&lt;br&gt;latest version of the same law the TSA violated, and continues to&lt;br&gt;violate, by operating their Automated Targeting System for&lt;br&gt;international travel.)&lt;p&gt;We look forward to the TSA&amp;#39;s response to our FOIA request for more&lt;br&gt;information about what the TSA is up to with this illegal scheme.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6312975558524166231?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6312975558524166231/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6312975558524166231' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6312975558524166231'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6312975558524166231'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/07/problems-with-new-tsa-id-procedures.html' title='Problems with new TSA id procedures'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5213713870631604901</id><published>2008-07-21T14:15:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-07-21T14:15:57.427-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Everything is fair game to the feds to verify your identity at the airport</title><content type='html'>from &lt;a href="http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/jul/14/walletless_traveler_recounts_journey/?city_local"&gt;http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2008/jul/14/walletless_traveler_recounts_journey/?city_local&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Panic, embarrassment and shock.&lt;p&gt;When Julie Brown lost her wallet shortly before she was to fly from&lt;br&gt;Kansas City to Columbus, Ohio, she didn&amp;#39;t know what to do.&lt;p&gt;While passing through Lawrence on her way to Kansas City from Topeka,&lt;br&gt;Brown misplaced her wallet at a gasoline station as she was filling&lt;br&gt;up. Despite a frantic search and filing a report with the Lawrence&lt;br&gt;Police Department, the Columbus resident went to Kansas City&lt;br&gt;International Airport with no proof of identification.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;At first, I thought, &amp;#39;Oh my God, I&amp;#39;m going to have to drive my rental&lt;br&gt;car all the way to Columbus,&amp;#39; &amp;quot; she said. But then, &amp;quot;I thought to&lt;br&gt;myself, &amp;#39;I&amp;#39;m not the first person in the world to have done this.&amp;#39;&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Acting on advice from employees at the Transportation Security&lt;br&gt;Administration, Brown arrived to the airport two hours early, ready to&lt;br&gt;state her case and to be rigorously questioned.&lt;p&gt;When a flight agent refused to issue a boarding pass, Brown pleaded&lt;br&gt;with her. She was finally issued a boarding pass.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I was shocked that they just handed it over to me,&amp;quot; she said.&lt;p&gt;Security measures&lt;p&gt;But they did, and the bottom line is that not having identification&lt;br&gt;doesn&amp;#39;t mean travelers will be barred from flying, said Brandy King, a&lt;br&gt;spokeswoman for Southwest Airlines.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;We will do what we have to, to get you on the plane,&amp;quot; King said. &amp;quot;If&lt;br&gt;you have your name and your flight number, then (agents) pull it up to&lt;br&gt;make sure you have a reservation for that flight.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;King said it was also important to bring the record locator number&lt;br&gt;that airlines use to confirm reservations.&lt;p&gt;Brown&amp;#39;s ordeal didn&amp;#39;t end until more than an hour later, shortly&lt;br&gt;before her flight took off. She was required to fill out a form, which&lt;br&gt;TSA agents compared to public records to verify her identity; the Ohio&lt;br&gt;Department of Motor Vehicles provided a photo of her; and she was&lt;br&gt;questioned about everything from her trip to her family. Agents also&lt;br&gt;reviewed a tax return she was carrying.&lt;p&gt;Brown&amp;#39;s story is reminiscent of many travelers&amp;#39; frantic foibles at the&lt;br&gt;airport. But it&amp;#39;s not unique, and TSA has protocols to deal with&lt;br&gt;travelers who lack proper identification.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I think most people are accustomed to presenting a photo ID with&lt;br&gt;their boarding pass,&amp;quot; said Carrie Harmon, a TSA spokeswoman. &amp;quot;If an&lt;br&gt;individual does not have identification, we have always had a&lt;br&gt;procedure in place to give those people extra security.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Identity matters&lt;p&gt;A new rule, enacted June 21, prohibits people who willfully lack an ID&lt;br&gt;from receiving a boarding pass. But if you happen to lose your ID, or&lt;br&gt;leave it at home, there is still a chance to get a boarding pass.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;We believe that identity matters, so we&amp;#39;ve taken several steps over&lt;br&gt;the last year to streamline the process of identifying an individual&lt;br&gt;before they get on the airplane,&amp;quot; Harmon said.&lt;p&gt;In the event of a lost ID, travelers had better plan.&lt;p&gt;Harmon said to arrive several hours in advance, and be prepared for&lt;br&gt;questioning that will prove your identity. Travelers can be subject to&lt;br&gt;further pat-downs by TSA agents, luggage examination and may even have&lt;br&gt;to speak with behavioral specialists.&lt;p&gt;But before travelers even make it to security, they have to get their&lt;br&gt;boarding pass from airline flight agents.&lt;p&gt;King said there is no set protocol for airlines to deal with&lt;br&gt;passengers who don&amp;#39;t have identification; they are dealt with on a&lt;br&gt;case-by-case basis.&lt;p&gt;And if you&amp;#39;re checking bags? Not to worry, King said.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Every bag goes through an intense screening,&amp;quot; she said. Each bag is&lt;br&gt;searched to ensure its owners are accounted for, part of security&lt;br&gt;measures enacted after 9/11.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The key to this is communication,&amp;quot; Harmon said. &amp;quot;To tell the security&lt;br&gt;screening officer that you&amp;#39;ve lost your ID, but you&amp;#39;re willing to&lt;br&gt;cooperate to verify your ID.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;For Brown, it was an experience she&amp;#39;ll not likely forget, but it could&lt;br&gt;have been worse.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;It was traumatic,&amp;quot; she said. &amp;quot;But it was also not as hard as I thought.&amp;quot;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5213713870631604901?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5213713870631604901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5213713870631604901' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5213713870631604901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5213713870631604901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/07/everything-is-fair-game-to-feds-to.html' title='Everything is fair game to the feds to verify your identity at the airport'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-1975214370109238563</id><published>2008-06-27T05:40:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-27T05:40:47.506-07:00</updated><title type='text'>ACLU Statement on TSA's new ID policy</title><content type='html'>reposted from &lt;a href="http://www.aclunc.org/issues/technology/blog/tsa_every_voter_counts_(at_the_airport).shtml"&gt;http://www.aclunc.org/issues/technology/blog/tsa_every_voter_counts_(at_the_airport).shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) set off a  minor firestorm in the blogosphere over its new ID policy,  which went into effect &lt;a href="http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2008/06/new-id-requirements-begin-tomorrow.html"&gt;this past Saturday&lt;/a&gt;. At least &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/tsa-id-policy/?i=5018844&amp;amp;t=privacy-whats-its-like-to-fly-with-no-id-under-the-tsas-new-regulations"&gt;one  passenger&lt;/a&gt; has reported that he was asked &lt;a href="http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2008/06/new-id-requirements-first-48.html"&gt;which political party&lt;/a&gt;  he is registered to vote for, as part of TSA&amp;#39;s new authentication  process.   &lt;p&gt;TSA&amp;#39;s new rules relate to passengers who attempt to fly without  ID -- itself a relatively rare occurrence. According to TSA, of the 2  million people who fly every day, approximately &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/19/flying.id/index.html"&gt;300 do not show  ID.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt; Many of these have lost or forgotten their identity documents, but in  some cases, these passengers have ID, and refuse to do so, citing  their belief that US citizens have the right to travel without showing  papers to government agents. The most famous of these activists is  John Gilmore, who &lt;a href="http://papersplease.org/wp/"&gt;took his case&lt;/a&gt; to the 9th Circuit Court of  Appeals back in 2006. While Gilmore  lost his case, the court did at least confirm TSA&amp;#39;s policies  (which had been a secret up until then), which were that  passengers could fly without ID if they were willing to undergo a  more stringent level of security screening. &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt; Fast forward two years, and TSA has &lt;a href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/enhance_id_requirements.shtm"&gt;now changed the rules&lt;/a&gt;  -- In a way that seems to clearly target Gilmore and other  activists. Passengers who refuse to show ID citing their rights not to  do so will be denied boarding. Passengers who claim to have lost or  forgotten their ID, will be permitted to fly, after going through an  even more extensive security check than before. &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Security &lt;a href="http://techliberation.com/2008/06/09/id-checks-are-about-control-not-security/"&gt;experts&lt;/a&gt; have &lt;a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/new_tsa_id_requ.html"&gt;blasted TSA&amp;#39;s decision&lt;/a&gt; as &amp;quot;security theatre&amp;quot; -- that is, a decision done for show, which does &lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9962760-46.html"&gt;nothing to  improve security&lt;/a&gt;. On the legal front, GW Law Professor Dan Solove has  also chimed in, stating that he thinks that the new rules &lt;a href="http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/the_new_tsa_ide.html"&gt;&amp;quot;may run afoul of the First Amendment.&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;While the new policy just went into effect on Saturday, details of  the new security process are already leaking out. One traveler &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/tsa-id-policy/?i=5018844&amp;amp;t=privacy-what-its-like-to-fly-with-no-id-under-the-tsas-new-regulations"&gt;sent a  detailed report&lt;/a&gt; to the Consumerist blog. Highlights include: &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;So you know how the new TSA regulations went into effect yesterday, where you can only fly without ID if you &amp;quot;cooperate&amp;quot; with the TSA? Well, it turns out you also have to take a test about your personal life. They call up a service to administer it, and the last question they asked was which political party am I registered under (I correctly answered &amp;quot;democrat&amp;quot; and they still let me on board).&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Finally satisfied that I didn&amp;#39;t have ID, Laurie took my boarding pass and went away. She came back a few minutes later having photocopied it, and also had an affidavit that she requested I sign. It asked for my name and address, and stated in small print at the bottom that I did not have to fill it out, but if I didn&amp;#39;t I couldn&amp;#39;t fly. It also said that if I choose to fill it out and then provided false info, I would be in violation of federal law.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;After filling out the affidavit, Laurie called a service to verify my address. The service needed me to then correctly answer three questions about myself, which Laurie relayed to me. The first was my date of birth, the second was a previous address (which I only got right on my second try), and the third was &amp;quot;You are registered to vote. Which political party have you registered with?&amp;quot; I got all three right, and only then did Laurie clear me to go through security.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;TSA quickly responded to the allegations on its &lt;a href="http://www.tsa.gov/blog/"&gt;own official  blog&lt;/a&gt;. TSA head honcho Kip Hawley  issued the following statement:  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s unequivocally not our policy to use political,  religious, or other sensitive personal topics as identity validation. If it  happened, it was wrong and will not be repeated.&amp;quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Unlike in other past controversies, this is not one where TSA  can merely blame a poorly trained screener or a &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/28/nipple.ring/index.html"&gt;badly written  policy&lt;/a&gt;. In this case, the screener relayed the questions to the passenger that were asked by whomever was on the other end of the phone. This may be a private contractor, or it may be TSA&amp;#39;s national counter-terrorism ops center. In either case, the problem here is more systemic, and frankly, speaks volumes about the fact that this change in policy was rushed out, with no public comment period. &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;We applaud TSA for taking rapid action to ensure that no more passengers are asked for their political affiliation. However, we believe that this minor controversy is merely the tip of the iceberg -- and that problems with this new policy may go far deeper. If the TSA is relying on private databases, the same types of databases which are &lt;a href="http://www.consumeraffairs.com/privacy/equifax.html"&gt;riddled with errors&lt;/a&gt; and cause invalid and false information to  end up on credit reports, how can this information possibly be used  as a reliable security indicator? Furthermore, if the information is publicly available, a  terrorist could also look up correct answers to the expected  questions before arriving at the airport.   &lt;/p&gt;TSA needs to thoroughly re-examine this new ID policy. It needs a &lt;a href="http://www.dhs.gov/xinfoshare/publications/editorial_0511.shtm"&gt;full privacy impact  assessment&lt;/a&gt; (as it has done for other projects)     and an  opportunity for public comment so that the agency can develop a  plan that ensures that due process, privacy, and free speech  rights are being properly respected at all levels of the system. &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-1975214370109238563?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/1975214370109238563/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=1975214370109238563' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1975214370109238563'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1975214370109238563'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/06/aclu-statement-on-tsas-new-id-policy.html' title='ACLU Statement on TSA&apos;s new ID policy'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5626086332403779878</id><published>2008-06-27T05:38:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-27T05:38:05.810-07:00</updated><title type='text'>TSA asks about party affiliation, records your information to fly without ID</title><content type='html'>Reposted from &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/tag/tsa-id-policy/?i=5018844&amp;amp;t=privacy-what-its-like-to-fly-with-no-id-under-the-tsas-new-regulations"&gt;http://consumerist.com/tag/tsa-id-policy/?i=5018844&amp;amp;t=privacy-what-its-like-to-fly-with-no-id-under-the-tsas-new-regulations&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;So you know how the new TSA regulations went into effect yesterday, where you can only fly without ID if you &amp;quot;cooperate&amp;quot; with the TSA? Well, it turns out you also have to take a test about your personal life. They call up a service to administer it, and the last question they asked was which political party am I registered under (I correctly answered &amp;quot;democrat&amp;quot; and they still let me on board).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Anyway the full story is that I had to go Florida for a funeral, and accidentally left my driver&amp;#39;s license in my apartment in Manhattan. I made it through LaGuardia on Thursday the 19th in about 3 minutes, but when I tried to fly back through Fort Lauderdale Airport yesterday, it took about 45.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;When I first approached security, I told the initial guard screening all passengers for ID that I had none. Instead of immediately calling the supervisor over like at LaGuardia, he paused and asked if I was sure I didn&amp;#39;t have any ID on me, like a social security card or something. I said I only had a credit card, so he then radioed for the area supervisor. She arrived in just a few seconds. Her name was Brenda, and she very politely and apologetically informed me that things had changed, and that the TSA supervisor for the whole airport needed to handle this situation because of the new regulations.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Luckily I had arrived an hour early so had plenty of time. I chatted with Brenda while we waited for the main supervisor to arrive. I started to get a little nervous that I wouldn&amp;#39;t be allowed on board, and Brenda repeatedly assured me it wouldn&amp;#39;t be a problem — they just had a few additional steps to go through.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;After about 15 minutes, the main supervisor, Laurie, arrived. Again, Laurie was exceedingly nice and professional, but seemed a little more concerned than Brenda. She asked if I was sure I didn&amp;#39;t have photo ID, like a credit card with my picture on it, or even a CostCo card. I wound up going through my wallet in front of her to show that I didn&amp;#39;t, and she pointed to various cards and receipts in it to ask if they were IDs. I wound up showing her everything to prove I was telling the truth. She repeatedly said they had no way of &amp;quot;verifying&amp;quot; that I was who I said I was, and that someone could have stolen my credit card and traveled under my name. I didn&amp;#39;t want to mention that they shouldn&amp;#39;t need to verify who I am, because I was afraid they could then say I wasn&amp;#39;t cooperating and deny travel on that ground. In fact, I even mentioned several times that I wanted to fully cooperate with them because I was aware that was a component of the new regulation, and they assured me that I was.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Finally satisfied that I didn&amp;#39;t have ID, Laurie took my boarding pass and went away. She came back a few minutes later having photocopied it, and also had an affidavit that she requested I sign. It asked for my name and address, and stated in small print at the bottom that I did not have to fill it out, but if I didn&amp;#39;t I couldn&amp;#39;t fly. It also said that if I choose to fill it out and then provided false info, I would be in violation of federal law.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;After filling out the affidavit, Laurie called a service to verify my address. The service needed me to then correctly answer three questions about myself, which Laurie relayed to me. The first was my date of birth, the second was a previous address (which I only got right on my second try), and the third was &amp;quot;You are registered to vote. Which political party have you registered with?&amp;quot; I got all three right, and only then did Laurie clear me to go through security.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Of course, I still had to submit to secondary screening, including a full-body pat-down and total luggage search. Brenda and Laurie stayed with me to make sure the process went as quickly as possible, and were again incredibly helpful and nice. They kept explaining over and over how necessary it was to &amp;quot;verify&amp;quot; who I was, and how times have changed, and how these new regulations must have been as a result of someone trying to get away with something, because there&amp;#39;s always a reason for these thing but they don&amp;#39;t always know what those reasons are. They were so nice and considerate that I waited until the very end before I finally said that I do not agree with the new regulations, but that I was thankful that the two of them acted so professionally and considerately to me. Laurie actually seemed a little dejected when I said this, because I had been playing along the entire time out of fear that I would not appear cooperative otherwise.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;But I made it onboard my flight, and am back in Manhattan. I have flown without ID in the past, a couple years ago, and it was no problem. I almost preferred it because I got to skip the line. This time around though, it was incredibly burdensome, and involved the full attention of two high-level local TSA employees for a considerable period of time. I kept wondering if Laurie and Brenda were so busy with me for so long, what if someone really bad was doing something in another terminal or area? So even though I cannot say enough good things about how these particular TSA employees handled it, I still feel the new regulation is entirely inappropriate and unnecessary. Why do you need to provide a home address to fly? And what if I refused to answer the question about my political party allegiances? Luckily I kept my cool and even befriended the screeners just so they couldn&amp;#39;t resort to the subjective lack-of-cooperation carve-out, but 45 minutes of standing at security not knowing if you&amp;#39;ll make your flight seems specifically designed to test people&amp;#39;s mettle and upset them. The TSA has turned flying without ID into an overly cumbersome and almost unmanageable chore.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5626086332403779878?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5626086332403779878/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5626086332403779878' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5626086332403779878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5626086332403779878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/06/tsa-asks-about-party-affiliation.html' title='TSA asks about party affiliation, records your information to fly without ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6964450529175649935</id><published>2008-06-25T09:48:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-25T09:48:57.431-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Your papers please: TSA bans ID-less flight</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;This is reposted from &lt;span class="author"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8300-13739_3-46.html?authorId=9750511"&gt;Chris Soghoian&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;s blog.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="commentTease"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9962760-46.html#comments"&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a major change of policy, the Transportation Security Administration &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/enhance_id_requirements.shtm"&gt;has announced&lt;/a&gt; that passengers refusing to show ID will no longer be able to fly. The policy change, announced on Thursday afternoon, will go into force on June 21, and will only affect passengers who refuse to produce ID. Passengers who claim to have lost or forgotten their proof of identity will still be able to fly.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;As long as TSA has existed, passengers have been able to fly without showing ID to government agents. Doing so would result in a secondary search (a pat down and hand search of your carry-on bag), but passengers were still permitted to board their flights. In some cases, taking advantage of this right to refuse ID came with fringe benefits--&lt;a class="external-link" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9769089-46.html"&gt;being bumped to the front of the checkpoint queue&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;For a few years after September 11, 2001, TSA&amp;#39;s policies when it came to flying without ID were somewhat fuzzy. The agency, like many other parts of the Bush Administration, has hidden behind the shroud of classification--in TSA&amp;#39;s case, labeling everything &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://rf-web.tamu.edu/security/Security%20Guide/S2unclas/Ssi.htm"&gt;Sensitive Security Information&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Seeking to clarify the rules, activist John Gilmore took the U.S. government to court in 2004. Gilmore chose to take a particularly hard line, by refusing to show ID to TSA and also by refusing to undergo the more thorough &amp;quot;secondary screening&amp;quot; search. He eventually lost his case before the 9th Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals.&lt;/p&gt;   While the judges were not willing to let Gilmore avoid the secondary screening search, they did at least &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://papersplease.org/gilmore/_dl/GilmoreDecision.pdf"&gt;recognize the right to travel without showing ID&lt;/a&gt;--providing that passengers are willing to be subject to a pat down and a bit of probing:   &lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;quot;The identification policy requires that airline passengers either present identification or be subjected to a more extensive search. The more extensive search is similar to searches that we have determined were reasonable and consistent with a full recognition of appellants constitutional right to travel.&amp;quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Since then, in at &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://www.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf"&gt;least two letters&lt;/a&gt; to citizens, TSA has &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://www.azstarnet.com/news/235184"&gt;re-affirmed this right&lt;/a&gt;. In March 2008, a &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tsa-080226-070-mocek.pdf"&gt;TSA official wrote that&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&amp;quot;If a traveler is unwilling or unable to produce a valid form of ID, the traveler is required to undergo additional screening at the checkpoint to gain access to the secured area of the airport.&amp;quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;A change in policy&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In a press release issued on Thursday with little fanfare, &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/enhance_id_requirements.shtm"&gt;TSA announced&lt;/a&gt; a major change in its rules.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Beginning Saturday, June 21, 2008 passengers that willfully refuse to provide identification at security checkpoint will be denied access to the secure area of airports. This change will apply exclusively to individuals that simply refuse to provide any identification or assist transportation security officers in ascertaining their identity.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;This new procedure will not affect passengers that may have misplaced, lost or otherwise do not have ID but are cooperative with officers. Cooperative passengers without ID may be subjected to additional screening protocols, including enhanced physical screening, enhanced carry-on and/or checked baggage screening, interviews with behavior detection or law enforcement officers and other measures.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;To clarify: Passengers who refuse to show ID, citing a constitutional right to fly without ID will be refused passage beyond the checkpoints. Passengers who say they have left their ID at home, will be searched, and then permitted to board their flights.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;While TSA&amp;#39;s announcement stated that the goal of the change was to &amp;quot;increase safety,&amp;quot; this blogger disagrees. The change of rules seems to be a pretty obvious case of security theater. Real terrorists do not refuse to show ID. They claim to have lost their ID, or they use a fake.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;TSA&amp;#39;s new rules only protect us from a non-existent breed of terrorists who are unable to lie.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fixing flaws vs. security theater&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In a &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1001675"&gt;research paper&lt;/a&gt; published in 2007, I outlined a number of glaring loopholes allowing the total circumvention of the much criticized &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/21164res20051026.html"&gt;no-fly lists&lt;/a&gt;. The two main flaws were that passengers can modify boarding passes, and that they can refuse to show ID.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;In December 2007, TSA &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9918813-46.html"&gt;began testing&lt;/a&gt; out a secure, authenticated, tamper-proof boarding pass scheme. It has since been rolled out to &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/tsa-and-contine.html"&gt;a number of major airports&lt;/a&gt; around the country.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;With hundreds of millions of dollars having already been spent on the various no-fly lists, it is at least interesting to see that &lt;i&gt;someone&lt;/i&gt; at TSA is now spending time on fixing the loopholes in the system. The most glaring of this has long been the fact that passengers can refuse to show (or claim to have forgotten) their ID. Simply put, without being able to know who is walking through a checkpoint, there is no way to know that the &amp;quot;bad guys&amp;quot; have been caught by the no-fly list.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;TSA&amp;#39;s new rule, while perhaps motivated by a desire to beef up security, is significantly flawed. Terrorists will lie, and claim to have lost their ID--while law-abiding citizens wishing to assert their rights will be hassled, and refused flight.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Of course, all of this is premised on the idea that the no-fly list is actually a useful safety tool--something that I, and a &lt;a class="external-link" href="http://techliberation.com/2008/06/09/id-checks-are-about-control-not-security/"&gt;number of other&lt;/a&gt; prominent security experts, strongly disagree with. Simply put, terrorists do not pre-register their intent.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;As Bruce Schneier has noted before, the no-fly list is a collection of hundreds of thousands of people who are too dangerous to fly, but not guilty enough to be charged with a crime.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6964450529175649935?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6964450529175649935/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6964450529175649935' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6964450529175649935'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6964450529175649935'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/06/your-papers-please-tsa-bans-id-less.html' title='Your papers please: TSA bans ID-less flight'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6836594622561951061</id><published>2008-05-30T10:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T10:49:35.820-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dfw'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='expired id'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew with expired ID from Dallas</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1129/1438338719_618c5c3e4f.jpg?v=0"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1129/1438338719_618c5c3e4f.jpg?v=0" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: Dallas (&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/dfw"&gt;DFW&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: April, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/expired%20id"&gt;Expired ID&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://erinandjohn.blogspot.com/2008/04/seattle-few-thoughts.html"&gt;Erin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description:&lt;/strong&gt; It seems my driver’s license expired this year on my birthday, unbeknownst to me. I am now finally in the habit of leaving the house for domestic flights without even thinking about digging out my passport, which was a necessity anytime I flew anywhere while we lived in Amsterdam. So, armed only with an apparently expired driver’s license to identify myself, the security guard informed me he was going to have to write in huge black letters across my boarding pass “No ID.” Then I had to wait five minutes for a “female assist” to come pat me down, search through my belongings, and exclaim that I certainly don’t look my age and at first she wondered why they would be so up in arms about a high-schooler not having an ID. (For those of you reading who are unaware: it’s been over a decade since I was in high school.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6836594622561951061?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6836594622561951061/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6836594622561951061' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6836594622561951061'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6836594622561951061'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/airport-san-francisco-sfo-date-april.html' title='Successfully flew with expired ID from Dallas'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4525406593154505053</id><published>2008-05-30T10:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T10:33:20.740-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='iah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><title type='text'>TSA allows Houston traveller in with no ID, boarding pass after a smoke break</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:gu4jS0kMtvpfUM:http://bp1.blogger.com/_5mtuGB5gT8E/RtIWftlvwfI/AAAAAAAAAWc/hcJA5wshLrk/s400/163.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 146px; height: 109px;" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:gu4jS0kMtvpfUM:http://bp1.blogger.com/_5mtuGB5gT8E/RtIWftlvwfI/AAAAAAAAAWc/hcJA5wshLrk/s400/163.JPG" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://redneckchronicales.blogspot.com/2008/05/ac-get-ready-cuz-here-i-come.html"&gt;S Kaye Alston&lt;/a&gt; reports that a fellow traveler left the terminal for a smoke break, but without an ID or boarding pass. The TSA seems to have let her back in without much trouble:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It was time to jet to the outside elements to burn one. Well, one of the "other" traveling butt head walked right out the door with nothing but her cigarettes!!! No ID, no boarding pass - NOTHING. Try this stunt in a busy airport, and see what happens. The southern charm was whipped out and throunced on "Larry the TSA agent", and the security dance began for her to make it back into the terminal. I have NEVER in my Life been able to gain access to such a secured environment without any form of ID. Thanks Judy for the laugh and adventure to see if we could pull this one off. We did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4525406593154505053?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4525406593154505053/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4525406593154505053' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4525406593154505053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4525406593154505053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/tsa-allows-houston-traveller-in-with-no.html' title='TSA allows Houston traveller in with no ID, boarding pass after a smoke break'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4678836424134181936</id><published>2008-05-30T10:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T10:24:25.193-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Delta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>TSA advises passenger by phone they need minimal or no ID</title><content type='html'>Two reports lately indicate that TSA is telling travelers who inquire by phone that they can get by with minimal ID. This is a bit strange, because in my experience, the TSA either wants to see proper ID or no ID at all, and misleading because, of course, you don't need any ID at all. However, it is better than the old days, when TSA seemed even more confused about ID.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_SKEuu4BI8ec/SEA1Ysc-5MI/AAAAAAAAAEY/peVk3YG6m-I/s1600-h/brody005.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_SKEuu4BI8ec/SEA1Ysc-5MI/AAAAAAAAAEY/peVk3YG6m-I/s200/brody005.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5206219867606148290" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://adelinezensius.blogspot.com/2008/05/delta.html"&gt;Adeline &lt;/a&gt;reports that Delta wouldn't give her a boarding pass without an ID, even though she had alternative ID. However, TSA was pretty clear with her over the phone that, as far as they are concerned, they just need a boarding pass. As Adeline found out from the TSA, she doesn't actually need any ID.  Delta has strict rules about ID for the sake of thir own revenue control--they don't want you buying someone else's ticket. Of course, this it their right. However, a traveler can check in online and print their boarding pass, or print it at a kiosk. This may mean no checking any bags (depends on the airline). However, once you get that boarding pass, you are free to travel. Even the strictest airlines, like Delta, will usually give you a boarding pass if you can provide them of enough evidence of who you are, so I am surprised they are being so hard line about it. Adeline writes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;So all I had was my BYU ID, and [Delta] didn't accept that because BYU is a private institution so the ID is not issued by the state. The dumb part is that the agent would have issued me a boarding pass if I had a library card. A library card? It has no photo, it is easily stolen, and is easy to get. That really didn't make sense to me. And yes, I did cry at the airport. She still didn't give me that little piece of paper. She did however transfer my flight to tomorrow night, free of charge.&lt;br /&gt;So I went home and stripped my room to look for my license while sitting on hold with Delta Airlines and then TSA for an hour to see what forms of ID I could use to get on the plane tomorrow. Let me preface this by saying that I understand that it is a federal law that they can't give me a boarding pass without proper ID. The problem is that no one knows what proper ID is. This is how the 3 separate phone calls went:&lt;br /&gt;1) The first lady said that I could use my library card and she said that her supervisor told her that he was 80% sure that my International Student Identity Card would pass through an agent, but that I should call TSA to make sure.&lt;br /&gt;2) &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;TSA didn't help me because they said you can pass through security with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;practically&lt;/span&gt; no ID as long as you have a boarding pass. They just do a secondary screening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) The third lady (back at Delta) said that I couldn't use my International card and that I couldn't use a library card and that the agent that said I could was just being nice.&lt;br /&gt;So if the agent wasn't "supposed" to let me in with a library card, then why couldn't she just let me in with a BYU photo ID (which is harder to fabricate and cannot be used in someone else's name)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://espenshadesescapades.blogspot.com/2008/05/in-certain-part-of-my-suitcase.html"&gt;Epenshade&lt;/a&gt; reports that relatives "were in a panic about how she would get home since she had no ID" when a purse was presumed stolen:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As Ty put Elise to bed, I pulled up the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;TSA&lt;/span&gt; phone number and called them to see how she could get home. They were very kind, and told me &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;with a police report she could fly&lt;/span&gt;, but she would be subject to additional screening. When I called her back to tell her this, she seemed a little calmer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Why is TSA saying they require a police report to fly without ID?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4678836424134181936?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4678836424134181936/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4678836424134181936' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4678836424134181936'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4678836424134181936'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/tsa-advises-passenger-by-phone-they.html' title='TSA advises passenger by phone they need minimal or no ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp2.blogger.com/_SKEuu4BI8ec/SEA1Ysc-5MI/AAAAAAAAAEY/peVk3YG6m-I/s72-c/brody005.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4025490885895865799</id><published>2008-05-18T07:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:49:46.310-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dfw'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Delta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='record of travelers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cho'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa enforcing corporate policy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><title type='text'>TSA defers to Delta at DFW: Consumerist Thread on Flying without ID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/04/passportphotos.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/04/passportphotos.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/flying-with-no-id/ask-the-consumerists-can-i-fly-with-no-id-249336.php"&gt;Consumerist&lt;/a&gt; has a thread on flying without ID. Unfortunately, their answer isn't very helpful--basically they advise that even though ID isn't necessary--run out GET ID as soon as possible anyway. Some of the commenters share interesting experiences about flying without ID. Unfortunately, the experiences described don't have any date information, so they won't be posted here directly. There is one particularly relevant post TSA deferred to Delta airlines on deciding about ID. This seems recent because TSA was in fact checking the IDs at the time, and let the passenger fly as a selectee on the originating flight. This is disturbing because it suggests that &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/tsa%20enforcing%20corporate%20policy"&gt;TSA is enforcing corporate policies&lt;/a&gt;, rather than the law (secret or not). The Delta rep also threatens that the &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/record%20of%20travelers"&gt;flyer will be put on a list&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; At the sceurity screening in &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Cho"&gt;Charlottesville, Virginia&lt;/a&gt;, I realized that I'd left my driver's license at home. "No problem," said the kindly TSA ID-checker. "You can travel without a driver's license. You'll just be a selectee."&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; With that he wrote "SSS" on my boarding pass, and when I went through I was taken aside for the extra-special treatment: full wanding, luggage dump, jokes about having to confiscate my doughnut.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; They couldn't have been nicer.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; On the way back, however, in &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/dfw"&gt;Dallas&lt;/a&gt;, the TSA ID-checker sent me to the Delta counter, where the &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Delta"&gt;Delta&lt;/a&gt; representative told me that I couldn't possibly fly without an ID. "I don't care what they told you in Charlottesville. Looks like you'll be taking the bus home."&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Eventually, an even nastier Delta supervisor decided to let me travel. "But you'll be on a list from now on." He wouldn't tell me what kind of list, and I decided not to press my luck.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Curiously, the authority that made the decision as to whether or not I could fly apeared to rest with the Delta supervisor, and not the TSA screeners.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4025490885895865799?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4025490885895865799/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4025490885895865799' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4025490885895865799'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4025490885895865799'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/consumerist-thread-on-can-i-fly-with-no.html' title='TSA defers to Delta at DFW: Consumerist Thread on Flying without ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5816020664935721901</id><published>2008-05-18T06:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:17:13.306-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secret law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>KCTV Channel 5 Cites Right To Fly Without ID, Is Subjected to Investigation, Questions Secret Laws</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.kctv5.com/2008/0515/15220224_240X180.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.kctv5.com/2008/0515/15220224_240X180.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;from &lt;a href="http://www.kctv5.com/news/16276120/detail.html"&gt;KCTV (Kansas City Channel 5 News)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Transportation Security Administration investigated KCTV5 News for exposing what some experts called a serious flaw in airline security.Last year, KCTV5 News was able to board flights to Washington and Chicago using IDs the station created.Document checkers at Kansas City International Airport and Washington Dulles International Airport glossed over the homemade ID.One airline screener couldn't tell if the ID was real or not, but he let an undercover producer through anyway, and the producer headed off to Washington.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then, the TSA took over document checking at KCI.So earlier this year, KCTV5 News decided to try to fly again with the homemade ID.That time, a TSA screener questioned the undercover producer and said he had to have a government-issued ID to fly.Technically, that's not true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the TSA's Web site, the policy "recommends" that ID be carried, but there's never been a public law requiring it, and after a secondary screening, the undercover producer was able to catch a flight to Chicago and back.A month later, the president and CEO of KCTV5's parent company received a letter from the TSA informing the company that KCTV5 was being investigated for using "homemade photo identification" in an attempt to "circumvent required additional security measures and procedures."It's an accusation attorney Jim Harrison finds especially interesting given there is no rule requiring any ID whatsoever to board a plane."TSA is not necessarily looking for weapons or explosives. They're using our transportation network as a dragnet for law enforcement," Harrison.Harrison argued a lawsuit against the government that would have forced it to reveal the source of the so-called ID requirement, but that lawsuit was dismissed -- in part, Harrison said, because the regulation requiring ID is shrouded in secrecy."They designated it SSI, or sensitive security information, and said the release of which would be detrimental to the safety of transportation," Harrison said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to court documents, the details of the SSI shall only be disclosed on a "need to know" basis.In effect, TSA is saying people are required to abide by laws but people aren't allowed to know what those laws are."One of the problems is that TSA's own security personnel don't understand what the law is because the law seems to be so secret that TSA will keep it from their employees," Harrison said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, many people don't realize the origin of the so-call ID requirement didn't follow a terrorist attack.In 1996, 230 passengers were killed when TWA Flight 800 exploded midair.On July 18, 1996, then-President Bill Clinton said, "While we seek the cause of the disaster, let us all agree that we must not wait to alleviate the concerns of the American people about air safety and air security."To address those concerns, according to former counter-terrorism adviser Richard Clarke, new airline security measures were introduced by the Clinton administration, and the so-called requirement to present "government-issued photo ID" became a staple at U.S. airports.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More than 10 years later, the TSA says security personnel are required to request ID but government ID is not required to fly."The best form of Homeland Security is liberty and for the people to exercise that liberty, and when you start curtailing that liberty in the hopes of providing more security, then you're just asking for trouble," Harrison said.Late Wednesday afternoon, the TSA sent KCTV5 News a statement calling the station's investigation "irresponsible" and a "disservice to passengers." Nevertheless, KCTV5 News was told that the TSA completed its investigation and decided not to take action against KCTV5 for the story.The TSA said new regulations are expected to go into effect later this year.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5816020664935721901?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5816020664935721901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5816020664935721901' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5816020664935721901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5816020664935721901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/kctv-channel-5-cites-right-to-fly.html' title='KCTV Channel 5 Cites Right To Fly Without ID, Is Subjected to Investigation, Questions Secret Laws'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2812944648178108826</id><published>2008-05-13T11:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-13T11:51:49.159-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secret law'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='realid'/><title type='text'>Secret Law and the Threat to Democratic and Accountable Government</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/2005/May_19/files/1116504517_wt2lelf93ds_Outlook.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/2005/May_19/files/1116504517_wt2lelf93ds_Outlook.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on the Constitution took testimony from from IDP Director Jim Harrison on “Secret Law and the Threat to Democratic and Accountable Government”. &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/30apr08harrisontestimony.pdf"&gt;Following is his submitted written testimony&lt;/a&gt;. It is definately worth a careful read, because it lays out the central issues behind the secret law which regulates travel identification.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;     &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Statement of James Harrison&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;before the Subcommittee on the Constitution&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Hearing on “Secret Law and the Threat to Democratic and Accountable Government”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;April 30, 2008&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Thank you for the opportunity to address the Subcommittee.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;My name is James P. Harrison. I am a private attorney and also director of the Identity Project (IDP), &lt;a style="" href="http://www.papersplease.org/" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" _base_target="_blank"&gt;&lt;http://www.papersplease.org&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, which provides advice, assistance, publicity, and legal defense to those who find their rights infringed, or their legitimate activities curtailed, by demands for identification, and builds public awareness about the effects of ID requirements on fundamental rights.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;IDP is a program of the First Amendment Project, a nonprofit organization providing legal and educational resources dedicated to protecting and promoting First Amendment rights.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;As a private attorney, I represented John Gilmore in Gilmore v. Gonzales, a recent federal case that extensively examined the issue of secret administrative law involving identification requirements for domestic air transportation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                                 &lt;/span&gt;Summary&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;Among the many categories of secret law addressed by the Subcommittee are secret transportation security directives issued by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The specific security directive addressed here is that which involves a passenger’s presentation of identification (ID) to travel domestically by commercial air carrier. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;While the rule that “Passengers Must Show Identification” is printed on TSA posters prominently displayed about security screening checkpoints in airports, TSA refuses to release the actual written rule that requires passengers to produce identification because it designates the rule itself as part of a control category of information known as “Sensitive Security Information.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The secrecy surrounding this specific security directive, which has the force and effect of a law, broadly illustrates the dangers inherent in secret law. It is important to make absolutely clear at the outset that the specific security directive at issue here does not involve the training procedures of TSA employees, or the manner in which any aviation security procedure is conducted by the TSA. What is at issue here is the federal requirement imposed directly by federal employees upon domestic air transportation passengers indicating that they must show their ID to fly, which it turns out is actually not the case.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;As a result of the secrecy surrounding this law, the public remains misinformed about TSA’s identification requirements. This public confusion has now broadened to include the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS’) misinformation that the federal penalties imposed upon the citizens of states that decide not to comply with REAL ID results in their inability to travel by air.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Further, not being able to actually read the law that requires ID to fly renders it largely unchallengeable in a court of law by those upon who it is arbitrarily enforced, and legislatively unreviewable by their representatives. It appears that this is a result of deliberate choice and official policy on the part of DHS.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Accepting, or even turning a blind eye to, this secret law invites the public to become accustomed to something antithetical to our systems of justice and liberty.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;I invite this Subcommittee to recognize and publicly decree this example of secret law for what it is, an abomination.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                  &lt;/span&gt;The Specific Law at Issue&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Various statutory provisions govern airport security screening. The Under Secretary of Transportation is directed to provide for the screening of all passengers and property. 49 U.S.C. 44901(a). In addition, the Under Secretary must direct airlines to refuse to transport a passenger who does not consent to a search establishing whether the passenger is carrying nlawfully a dangerous weapon, explosive or other destructive substance. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Id. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;§ 44902(a).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Neither of these statutes mentions passenger identification.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Congress has generally forbidden the use of secret law. However, there are narrowly tailored exceptions to the requirement of disclosure. 49 U.S.C. 114(s) provides that notwithstanding FOIA, TSA is authorized, upon making particular findings, to prescribe regulations prohibiting the disclosure of information obtained or developed in carrying out security under authority of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act or under chapter 449 of this title.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;These findings include a required administrative determination that disclosure is inappropriate for specified reasons, principally because it would be detrimental to the security of transportation.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;TSA’s implementing regulations address “Sensitive Security Information” (SSI) that the agency will refuse to disclose pursuant to the just-cited statutory provisions.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The regulations define SSI to include, for example, all threat information, security measures, and security screening information. 49 C.F.R. 1520.5(b)(7)-(9). But the regulations go further to define as SSI “[a]ny Security Directive or order” issued under relevant regulatory provisions, together with “[a]ny comments, instructions, and implementing guidance pertaining thereto.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Id&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;. §1520.5(b)(2).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;A Security Directive is the document setting forth mandatory measures that airports and TSA personnel must follow in conducting airport screening. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Id. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;§1542.303(a).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Every Security Directive or Information Circular, and information contained in either document, is forbidden to be disclosed to persons other than those who have an operational need to know. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Id. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;§1542.303(f)(2).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;At issue here is the TSA requirement that all passengers show identification before they are permitted to board a domestic commercial airline flight in the United States.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The government categorically refuses to make public the document that imposes this legal obligation on commercial airline passengers as it has determined it to be SSI.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The secrecy surrounding this directive is quite unusual in two respects.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;First, although the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;document &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;itself is withheld from public disclosure, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;its requirements &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;are disclosed every day to millions of people, who are advised that they must show identification.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Thus, the government’s secrecy does not involve keeping sensitive information non-public.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;What is at stake is instead the government’s refusal to prove that what it claims is the law is, in fact, required. Second, and relatedly, it appears that the directive or implementing guidance purposefully or inadvertently causes transportation security officials to mislead the public.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                   &lt;/span&gt;DHS’ Admission of Misinformation&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Passengers are consistently advised that federal law requires them to show identification.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;That representation is false, however. There is another option. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Passengers in reality can generally travel even without showing “proper” identification so long as they undergo a more extensive security screening.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The government s secrecy here in refusing to disclose the actual directive thus has the effect of misinforming the public of what the law actually requires.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;During the pleadings phase of Gilmore v. Gonzales before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, the government defendants asserted that Mr. Gilmore’s various rights were not violated by the identification requirement in part because he had the option for a “heightened” level of physical search instead.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;After being pressed on this issue during oral argument, defendants were ordered by the Court to file under seal for its &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;ex parte &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;in camera &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;examination.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In its ruling, the Court referred to its examination of the security directive. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;“As noted, we have reviewed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;in camera &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;the materials submitted by the Government under seal, and we have determined that the TSA Security Directive is final within the meaning of § 46110(a).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The Security Directive “imposes an obligation” by requiring airline passengers to present identification or be a “selectee,” and by requiring airport security personnel to carry out the policy.” 435 F.3d 1125, 1148 (9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;th &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Cir. 2006).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In part based upon the availability of the “selectee” option, the Court found that Mr. Gilmore’s rights were not unconstitutionally violated by the identification requirement.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;A writ of certiorari was filed with the Supreme Court focused singularly on the issue of secret law. Despite the filing of multiple amicus briefs, and the importance of the issue, the Supreme Court denied the writ of certiorari.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;2&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Despite this admission of misinformation by TSA, the signs at the airports still say identification is required to fly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;One of the major problems with Secret Law is that it is impossible to tell when the law has changed.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Since the Appellate Court’s examination of the security directive in the Gilmore case, we have not until recently been able to confirm the law regarding identification to fly had not been altered.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In a letter dated March 22, 2008, a DHS official confirmed in writing to a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;private citizen that the law had not changed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Gilmore v. Gonzales &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;435 F.3d 1125 (9&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;th &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Cir. 2006) is available at&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.papersplease.org/gilmore/_dl/GilmoreDecision.pdf" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" _base_target="_blank"&gt;http://www.papersplease.org/gilmore/_dl/GilmoreDecision.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;2 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The separate Supreme Court amicus briefs filed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF); the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC); and Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and the American Society of Newspapers Editors are available at ttp://papersplease.org/gilmore/legal.html&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;This letter caught the attention of the media and resulted in a number of newspaper articles including that printed on April 8, 2008, in the Kansas City Star: “Although airport security tells passengers they must show ID to board planes, they really don’t”; on April 14, 2008, in the Seattle Times: “If truth be told, you don’t always need ID for domestic flights”; and on April 20, 2008, in the Arizona Star: “You can fly without ID, but a hassle will accompany you.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;4 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Despite these recent admissions by DHS that ID is not actually required to fly domestically, there is no way of knowing whether this secret law has been changed since then, thereby making the federal government’s signs posted at our airports truthful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;This Misinformation Spreads into the National REAL ID Debate&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Despite the above statements that ID is not required to fly domestically in the United States, the TSA, in its recent issuance of Final Rules pertaining to the Real ID Act, leads the public, and the state governments that may refuse to comply with the Act, to the opposite conclusion.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Beginning on page six of the final rules, it reads: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                          &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                         &lt;/span&gt;I. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;BACKGROUND&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                      &lt;/span&gt;A. Statutory Authority and Regulatory History&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;This final rule establishes minimum standards for State-issued drivers’ licenses and identification cards that Federal agencies can accept for official purposes on or after May 11, 2008, as required under the REAL ID Act of 2005. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;See, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Public Law 109- 13, 119 Stat. 231, 302 (May 11,2005) (codified at 49 U.S.C. 30301 note) (the Act).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Seehttp://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tsa-080226-070-mocek.pdf&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;4 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;See &lt;a href="http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/567590.html" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" _base_target="_blank"&gt;http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/567590.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2004347810_webflyingnoid14.html" _base_target="_blank"&gt;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2004347810_webflyingnoid14.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.azstarnet.com/news/235184" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" _base_target="_blank"&gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/news/235184&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;During the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, all but one of the terrorist hijackers acquired some form of identification&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;document, some by fraud, and used these forms of identification to assist them in boarding commercial flights, renting cars, and other necessary activities leading up to the attacks. See &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;THE 911 COMMISSION REPORT, FINAL REPORT OF THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;(July 2004) (911 Commission Report), p. 390.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The 911 Commission recommended implementing more secure sources of identification for use in, among other activities, boarding aircraft and accessing vulnerable facilities.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In its report, the Commission stated Secure Identification should begin in the United States.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The federal government should set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and sources of identification, such as drivers’ licenses. Fraud in identification documents is no longer just a problem of theft.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;At many entry points to vulnerable facilities, including gates for boarding aircraft, sources of identification are the last opportunity to ensure that people are who they say they are and to check whether they are terrorists. Id. at 390.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Congress enacted the Act in May 2005, in response to the 911&lt;br /&gt;Commission’s recommendations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Under the Act, Federal agencies are prohibited, effective May 11, 2008, from accepting a driver’s license or a State-issued personal identification card for an official purpose unless the issuing State is meeting the requirements of the Act.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;“Official purpose” is defined under §201 of the Act to include access to Federal facilities, boarding Federally-regulated commercial aircraft, entry into nuclear power plants, and such other purposes as established by the Secretary of Homeland Security.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Undoubtedly, the most significant impact on the public of this statutory mandate is that, effective May 11, 2008, citizens of States that have not been determined by DHS to be in compliance with the mandatory minimum requirements set forth in the REAL &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;ID &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Act may not use their State-issued drivers’ licenses or identification cards to pass through security at airports.&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;Citizens in this category will likely encounter significant travel delays.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;This inconsistency did not go unnoticed.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In South Carolina’s Governor Mark Sanford’s scathing letter of March 31, 2008 to Secretary Chertoff, in which he asked that the citizens of South Carolina not be punished by DHS for their state’s deciding not to comply with Real ID, he specifically raised the point that ID is not actually required to fly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;On the final page of his letter he alludes to the Ninth Circuit’s Gilmore decision and the current ability to fly without ID.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;In this instance, the serious aspect that a secret law prevents an informed legislative examination of the law presents itself.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Without Gilmore bringing suit and forcing disclosure of the law, albeit&lt;br /&gt;through an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;in camera &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;review and the resulting secondary description of it by a Federal Appellate Court, Governor Sanford may not have been aware of the content of this secret law.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;While Real ID now seems to have been passed to next administration to resolve, this important example of secret law remains and will continue to cause confusion and stymie an informed national debate on the Act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;span&gt;                                                &lt;/span&gt;Conclusion&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Permitting the government to enforce a secret law invites abuse and confusion in its application. It permits the government to misrepresent the contents of the law to suit its purposes (whatever they may be at the time) and to inappropriately hide provisions that it may not want known.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;It also deprives the public of the ability to monitor agency compliance regarding enforcement of the law (for example, to ensure that the law is not enforced in a discriminatory manner).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The very problems with the secrecy challenged by here are highlighted by the Government’s own inconsistent statements about the directive.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;Airport personnel themselves do not seem to know the standards that they are expected to enforce.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;The rule of law protects us from unbridled governmental authority and defends liberty.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;It continues to be said that our best form of homeland security is liberty. DHS’ willingness to stray from the rule of law here, in an attempt to attain some perceived greater security, is something deserving this Subcommittee’s continued attention.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style','serif';"&gt;See &lt;a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/letterf033108realidletterdhs1.pdf" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" _base_target="_blank"&gt;http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/letterf033108realidletterdhs1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:'Bookman Old Style','serif';font-size:12;"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2812944648178108826?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2812944648178108826/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2812944648178108826' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2812944648178108826'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2812944648178108826'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/secret-law-and-threat-to-democratic-and.html' title='Secret Law and the Threat to Democratic and Accountable Government'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5103583794976165198</id><published>2008-05-13T11:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:51:52.912-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='San Francisco'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><title type='text'>Lost ID, but no problems flying from SFO</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/344315024_67f6a5249d.jpg?v=0"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 167px; height: 112px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/344315024_67f6a5249d.jpg?v=0" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: San Francisco (&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/San%20Francisco"&gt;SFO&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: March 14, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: Lost ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://mollyoliver.blogspot.com/2008/03/there-there-now.html"&gt;Molly Oliver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description: &lt;/strong&gt;So, a little spacey quality &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;snuck&lt;/span&gt; in as I was travelling last weekend and I mislaid my photo ID in SF airport. It is also much easier to get on a plane without identification than one would be led to believe. I do think I actually made it through security a little quicker with out, although I had to suffer the humiliation of being shunted into this little cattle corral thing for a bit, stay extra long in the air-puffer chamber and then have some nice young girl wipe down my shoes, phone and the entire inside of my bag with what looked like an &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;oversized&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;Stridex&lt;/span&gt; pad.  I am so glad that the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;TSA&lt;/span&gt; is keeping us safe.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5103583794976165198?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5103583794976165198/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5103583794976165198' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5103583794976165198'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5103583794976165198'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/lost-id-but-no-problems-flying-from-sfo.html' title='Lost ID, but no problems flying from SFO'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2802199757922677334</id><published>2008-05-09T11:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-09T12:18:52.840-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='intentionally ambiguous'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MCI'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Although airport security tells passengers they must show ID to board planes, they really don’t</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2365333063_f230828511.jpg?v=0"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2365333063_f230828511.jpg?v=0" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="siteinfo"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/235184"&gt;By Scott Canon  and Mike Rice&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="allcaps"&gt; McClatchy Newspapers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tucson, Arizona | Published: 04.20.2008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div class="bannerinstory"&gt; &lt;div class="advert" align="left"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;script type="text/javascript"&gt;OAS_AD('300x250_1')&lt;/script&gt; &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;div&gt;KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Flying across the country? Leave your pocketknife in the car. Don't carry more than a few ounces of liquids onto the plane. And don't forget that ID. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Wait? ID? Turns out we don't need no stinking ID. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Sure enough, leaving it behind will buy you hassle. It will probably annoy those in line behind you as the bottleneck of security slows from crawl to standstill. And it means you're in for a thorough frisking and a greater likelihood that the possessions you've dragged along on your journey will be tested for traces of explosives. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;But the Transportation Security Administration concedes you should still be able to board that plane. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Consider the travels of Phillip Mocek, a Seattle software developer. A few years ago he read about a court case challenging various U.S. travel rules and decided he didn't like the idea of having to prove his identity to board a jet. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;"I object to what I see as the federal government making a requirement for me to travel around my own country," Mocek said. "So I started testing the system." &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Two or three years ago — he can't recall exactly when he started — Mocek headed out on trips with his driver's license planted firmly out of view. ("I still carried it with me. My need to get places, if necessary, would have overridden my desire to flex my rights.") &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;And time and again, he got where he wanted to go. He'd arrive at an airport with his boarding pass already printed and head to the security check. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;"I would say, 'I don't have any ID to show you.' I very clearly did not want to lie, but I did not want to anger somebody by saying, 'I don't want to show you my ID,"' Mocek said, conceding he was parsing words. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Each time he would be subject to extra clearance — "I understand that's the way it is now" — but he always got cleared to fly. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;After a visit last month to see family, he went to Kansas City International Airport to catch his flight back to Seattle. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;To his thinking, the questions from the private security detail at the facilities' far-flung gates seemed more intrusive than he'd experienced elsewhere. He thought that being sent back to the airline counter for another boarding pass was unnecessary. But in the end, with the usual extra frisking, he flew without pulling out his ID. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Still, he was particularly annoyed at signs at the airport declaring that a government ID was required to fly. So when he returned home, he logged on to the TSA Web site and posted a complaint. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Eventually, a TSA official wrote back. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;"TSA requires travelers to produce a valid form of government-issued ID to verify that the name on the travel document matches the ID," the response said. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;But then it went on in seeming contradiction: "If a traveler is unwilling or unable to produce a valid form of ID, the traveler is required to undergo additional screening at the checkpoint to gain access to the secured area of the airport." &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;So an ID is required, except that it's not. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;"If you have an ID," TSA spokeswoman Andrea McCauley said in an interview, "we highly encourage that you use that ID, because it speeds up the process not only for you but for anybody behind you in line." &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;But allowances are made for the ID-free, she said, "because we have to put something in place for people who are on a trip and lose their ID." &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;That said, the agency's specific policy remains officially secret. &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;Even without an ID, McCauley said, such passengers should not pose an extra security threat. Their names are still cross-checked against the federal no-fly list of potential terrorists. Their baggage, like every other passenger's, is electronically screened, and the travelers are searched more thoroughly than most people with ID.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2802199757922677334?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2802199757922677334/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2802199757922677334' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2802199757922677334'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2802199757922677334'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/you-can-fly-without-id-but-hassle-will.html' title='Although airport security tells passengers they must show ID to board planes, they really don’t'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2839439469218703894</id><published>2008-05-09T11:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:52:48.454-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='San'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew after losing ID, SAN</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss_bb/images/random/header_2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss_bb/images/random/header_2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: San Diego (&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/San"&gt;SAN&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: March 13, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: Lost ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/03/13/how-to-fly-without-id-and-skip-lines/"&gt;Tim Ferriss&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;My wallet was stolen at ETech in San Diego 3 hours before my flight was scheduled to leave for Austin, TX. Panic set in, as I had to be on a panel the following afternoon, but I learned of a few work-arounds.&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Here’s what I did, first from the hotel:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  I took the clever &lt;a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/brady/"&gt;Brady Forrest&lt;/a&gt;’s advice and printed out a little-known (outside of techies) &lt;a href="http://www.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;letter from the TSA&lt;/a&gt;, written to Senator John Warner, that outlines protocol for flying without ID. If the airport check-in staff or security stop you, &lt;a href="http://www.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;this letter&lt;/a&gt; and requesting a supervisor is often enough to get you onboard.&lt;p&gt;2. I used my flight number and name to print out my boarding passes from the hotel kiosk. I wouldn’t be able to use them ultimately, but it would be helpful to prove identify.&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p&gt;3. I borrowed $100 from two friends for taxis, etc., and promised to immediately reimburse them through PayPal, which I could use as currency in place of my stolen credit cards and cash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;At the airport:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Told them very casually “Oh, by the way, I’m flying without ID today because my wallet was stolen.” They gave their condolences and marked my boarding pass for additional screening with “SSS” in bright red block letters. I checked one bag and never had to show the TSA letter.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;2. Because you are now a bigger security risk, they put you in your own line! The key is to put as much in checked luggage as possible, as they will swab everything in your carry-on for explosive residue and do a quick pat down.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;3. After clearing security in record time, I called the San Diego harbor police using 1-800-GOOG-411 on my cell to file a police report with an officer at the airport, which took about 10 minutes.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The officer then called up my CA driver’s license number and put it on a temporary ID card that I could use to drive (and also get served alcohol when used in combination with an old student picture ID from Berlin). Filing the police report is also important for filing claims with banks, credit cards, etc. to be reimbursed for any fraudulent charges.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I had the student ID in a second wallet where I put cards, memberships, etc. that I use infrequently, so I don’t clog up my ultra-slim wallet. This back-up wallet is stored in my backpack.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;4.  Used wi-fi at the terminal to cancel my cards and get replacements overnighted to a friend’s place in Austin.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3&gt;The End Result — Faster without ID!&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p&gt;I cleared security in 5 minutes, where it took others AHEAD of me in line with ID 15-20 minutes.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I was upset that that my &lt;a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/22/get-george-bush-to-help-you-skip-airport-lines/" target="_blank"&gt;FlyClear biometric card&lt;/a&gt; had been stolen, expecting to be delayed, but perhaps the cheaper solution and equally effective time saver is to “lose” your license, or simply keep it in the wallet and tell them you’re traveling without ID.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I’ll be testing this on my return trip as well.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Just another reminder to question what you “have to” do.   Oftentimes the forbidden opposite is the best solution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2839439469218703894?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2839439469218703894/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2839439469218703894' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2839439469218703894'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2839439469218703894'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/succesfully-flew-after-losing-id-san.html' title='Successfully flew after losing ID, SAN'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6491593584092234705</id><published>2008-05-09T11:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:53:24.185-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southwest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='isp'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew without ID, but with intense search at ISP</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2Nf4HOwd6Col_M:http://www.winecommonsewer.com/the_wine_commonsewer/images/tsa.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 152px; height: 203px;" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2Nf4HOwd6Col_M:http://www.winecommonsewer.com/the_wine_commonsewer/images/tsa.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: Long Island Islip MacArthur (&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/isp"&gt;ISP&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: March 3, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: Want to fly without ID, as a selectee&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: personal&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline&lt;/strong&gt;: Southwest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: ISP is a small airport. When I told the ID checking TSA agent that I wanted to fly without ID as a selectee. He had directed me into a little gated area, then had to leave his post while everyone else waited and go get someone to help me. The man who took me really wasn't sure what to do, and asked me a few questions while looking at my carryon. Finally, the manager came over and asked me questions about why I wanted to fly without ID, in a rather adversarial tone. I told him that I believed it was my right to fly without my ID being checked by the federal government, and suddenly his tone changed and he seemed okay with it.&lt;br /&gt;However, I then received the most horrendous SSSS search  I have ever been through. Agents started yelling "selectee!" My various items were marked with red tape. Each item (carryon, backpack, camera, laptop) was investigated by a different agent, in the most tedious process I have seen. I was patted down and wanded by an agent in an extensive process. The wand picked up a gum wrapper in my pocket, and also my wallet. The agent insisted on putting my wallet through the metal detector. I told him that I wasn't comfortable being separated from my wallet, he walked away with it telling me to watch him while he walked back through the metal detector and put it through. I waited for the rest of my items to be screened, and then gathered them and went on my way.&lt;br /&gt;This is by far the most extensive search and intense questioning I have been subjected to when traveling without ID.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6491593584092234705?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6491593584092234705/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6491593584092234705' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6491593584092234705'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6491593584092234705'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/successful-but-with-intense-search-at.html' title='Successfully flew without ID, but with intense search at ISP'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-3321761851713182539</id><published>2008-05-09T10:49:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-18T07:54:13.958-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unsuccessful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='intentionally ambiguous'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='midway'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southwest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Unsuccesful at MDW, TSA suggests I lie instead to fly without ID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7aqOnFrFtY-NfM:http://www.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7aqOnFrFtY-NfM:http://www.dubfire.net/warner-tsa.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: Chicago Midway (&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/midway"&gt;MDW&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: February 28, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: want to fly as a selectee, without ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: personal &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline&lt;/strong&gt;: Southwest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Unsuccessful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: I told the TSA ID checker that I was flying without ID as a selectee. She told me I couldn't designate myself as a selectee, and handed me over to another agent who asked me if I had ID, and I told him politely I was flying without ID as a selectee. He said I couldn't fly without ID, that it was a security measure, and that they were protecting me . I mumbled something about the supreme court saying it was okay. He left and went and got a third agent, who told me that there was no I way I was getting on a plane or past that point without showing my ID. I quickly said, "yes sir, I'm sorry sir", showed him my ID, which he looked at, and then he sent me on my way.&lt;br /&gt;After the metal detector, I went up to the TSA desk and asked to file a complaint. The TSA agent there got someone who seemed to be the manager, who gave me the form and asked what the problem was. I told him that I had tried to fly without ID, but had been denied. He agreed that I should have been able to fly without ID, but told me that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;if I had used different "verbage" I wouldn't have had a problem&lt;/span&gt;. After I questioned him on this further, I realized that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;he was implying that I should have told the agent that I lost my ID&lt;/span&gt;.  and I told him that &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;I certainly wasn't going to lie&lt;/span&gt;. He agreed that it seemed like a training issue, and I suggested he give his agents more careful training.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-3321761851713182539?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/3321761851713182539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=3321761851713182539' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3321761851713182539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3321761851713182539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/05/unsuccesful-at-fmdw-tsa-suggests-i-lie.html' title='Unsuccesful at MDW, TSA suggests I lie instead to fly without ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-688937065700734729</id><published>2008-02-26T08:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-02-26T08:37:33.628-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='realid'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secure flight'/><title type='text'>You won't need ID to fly under Real-ID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/"&gt;Edward Hasbrouck&lt;/a&gt; has pointed out that under final Real-ID rules, you won't be required to show ID to fly.  He also carefully differentiates between Real-ID and Secure Flight. This &lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001382.html"&gt;is an important article for anyone interested in this issue&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There's been a lot of confusion in the last few weeks as to (1) whether the USA&lt;br /&gt;Federal "Real-ID Act" will change the requirements for personal identification&lt;br /&gt;documents for airline passengers in the USA, and (2) if and when the Real-ID Act&lt;br /&gt;is fully implemented, will it be impossible to fly without showing a&lt;br /&gt;government-issued "Real-ID" document?&lt;br /&gt;Now that the &lt;a href="http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/29jan20081800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/08-140.htm"&gt;final rules&lt;/a&gt; for implementation of the Real-ID Act have been published, those questions can be answered simply and definitively: No, and no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;No publicly-disclosed USA Federal law or regulation currently requires domestic USA airline passengers to present any sort of evidence of their identity. If you have a valid ticket and comply with their general rules, airlines are required by Federal law to transport you, regardless of whether you have any identification papers (government-issued, "Real-ID" compliant, or otherwise). The Real-ID Act and its rules will not change any of this. You will still have a right to fly without ID, even under the Real-ID rules newly announced by the USA Department of Homeland Security (DHS).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;There are &lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001371.html"&gt;other&lt;/a&gt; pending rules which, if they are allowed to go into effect, will require both government-issued papers and permission for international travel to and from the USA, beginning this month. And the proposed &lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001286.html"&gt;Secure Flight&lt;/a&gt; scheme&lt;br /&gt;would extend those papers-and-permission requirements to domestic air travel&lt;br /&gt;within the USA. Those are significant, and call for immediate litigation and&lt;br /&gt;ongoing refusal to comply with illegal orders. But those are all separate from&lt;br /&gt;the Real-ID Act.&lt;br /&gt;Much of the confusion about the Real-ID Act and air travel&lt;br /&gt;has come from misunderstandings of the current rules, and from imprecise&lt;br /&gt;reporting about the proposed Real-ID Act regulations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001382.html"&gt;More...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-688937065700734729?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/688937065700734729/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=688937065700734729' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/688937065700734729'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/688937065700734729'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/02/you-wont-need-id-to-fly-under-real-id.html' title='You won&apos;t need ID to fly under Real-ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-8276983299029482199</id><published>2008-01-18T08:25:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-18T08:36:59.171-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='kids'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><title type='text'>Kids take greyhound instead of plane beacuse they don't have ID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_IF1qbczOxfk/R4hfzCRbN5I/AAAAAAAABR8/wJG-9e6ZcCE/s400/geesquad1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_IF1qbczOxfk/R4hfzCRbN5I/AAAAAAAABR8/wJG-9e6ZcCE/s400/geesquad1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://cortneygeeonline.blogspot.com/2008/01/proud-papa.html"&gt;Courtney was sending his kids&lt;/a&gt; on an airplane trip, but they had  no ID, and the TSA mis-informed him that they couldn't fly without it. So, instead, he put them on the greyhound, which he considered much more dangerous for their safety. Courtney should know that if they are&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; under 18, his children don't even require ID&lt;/span&gt;. Either way, they could be subjected to an extra search and fly without ID.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have found several cases where people didn't fly (or &lt;a href="http://blog.6z1.com/2008/01/14/10/"&gt;told others they couldn't fly&lt;/a&gt;) because they don't have ID. These people have lost their right to free movement because they are being mis-informed (or are misinterpreting) rules issued by the government and airlines. There is no excuse for this blatant disregard for transparency by the DHS and TSA -- they need to be very clear what the rights of ordinary travelers are.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-8276983299029482199?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/8276983299029482199/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=8276983299029482199' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8276983299029482199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8276983299029482199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/kids-take-greyhound-instead-of-plane.html' title='Kids take greyhound instead of plane beacuse they don&apos;t have ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://bp1.blogger.com/_IF1qbczOxfk/R4hfzCRbN5I/AAAAAAAABR8/wJG-9e6ZcCE/s72-c/geesquad1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2942191864838420552</id><published>2008-01-18T08:17:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-18T08:24:37.850-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='immigration'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><title type='text'>Fly without ID to avoid compromising your immigration status</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ij8X2sp_DP5aZM:http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/images/dhs-3.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 184px; height: 145px;" src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ij8X2sp_DP5aZM:http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/images/dhs-3.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The&lt;a href="http://thepinoy.net/?p=1055#comment-24673"&gt; TSA has been checking visas within passports as part of their ID check for domestic flights&lt;/a&gt;. If the see that the visa is no longer valid, they call immigration, at which point people have been detained and arrested. The TSA has confirmed this policy. They have also flagged people for flying with counterfeit or suspicious IDs, who have later been arrested.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember, you have the right to fly without showing your ID.  If you are unsure that your travel papers are in order, it is better not to show them at all. You will be subject to an additional search, so carry nothing incriminating with you (always a good policy when traveling), but you also will have done nothing wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Full detail about flying without ID are available at this blog, &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/"&gt;How to Fly without ID&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2942191864838420552?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2942191864838420552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2942191864838420552' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2942191864838420552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2942191864838420552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/fly-without-id-to-avoid-compromising.html' title='Fly without ID to avoid compromising your immigration status'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6980056100267443040</id><published>2008-01-18T08:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-18T08:10:13.452-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='LGA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew without ID, No extra screening, Laguardia, Jan 17</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.gadling.com/media/2008/01/82332022_808e9507c5.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.gadling.com/media/2008/01/82332022_808e9507c5.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: LaGuardia (LGA)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: January 17, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: none&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.gadling.com/2008/01/18/laguarda-tsa-lets-passenger-through-without-checking-id/"&gt;Grant&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline&lt;/strong&gt;: ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: My girlfriend hasn't had a valid ID for a few months now. ... she's been using various forms of expired ID to get into bars and onto planes across the country. ...Passing through security at LaGuardia yesterday, she was prepared for the same questions. Instead however, in blatant disregard for protocol &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;she just got waved through by the security officer. Nobody asked for ID. Anywhere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6980056100267443040?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6980056100267443040/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6980056100267443040' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6980056100267443040'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6980056100267443040'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/successfully-flew-without-id-no-extra.html' title='Successfully flew without ID, No extra screening, Laguardia, Jan 17'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-363042784257782711</id><published>2008-01-17T09:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-17T09:36:23.226-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='American'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reagan national'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew without ID, Washington Reagan, January 9</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.cs.virginia.edu/%7Egsw2c/images/uva_id2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.cs.virginia.edu/%7Egsw2c/images/uva_id2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: Washington National (DCA)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: January 9, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: Lost ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://zoelandia.blogspot.com/2008/01/email-from-ricardo.html"&gt;Ricardo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline&lt;/strong&gt;: American&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: Incredibly, the [American Airlines] lady handed me a boarding pass, and my UVA ID, and told me that I would be subjected to "special screening" at security....I approached the guy who checks ID's with trepidation, handing him my boarding pass and UVA ID.  "Don't you have a government-issued ID?" he asked, with a marked note of incredulity in his voice.&lt;br /&gt;"No, just this" I answered sheepishly, pointing at my pathetic little university ID. I thought of mentioning the fact that UVA is a state agency, and that my UVA ID is therefore, technically speaking, a government-issued photo ID, but then I thought that it's best not to argue with TSA.&lt;br /&gt;"Well, you've been selected by the airline for special screening," he added, pointing me into the security line. I nodded, and approached the line, taking off my shoes and taking out my laptop . . . The person at the metal detector looked at my boarding pass and told me that I'd been selected for special screening. She sent me to stand in this glass corridor with a door at the end. The man at the x-ray machine gathered my stuff and came to get me. ...&lt;br /&gt;They took me to that special area they have to run my bags through the "will-it-blow-up" test, and to pat me down. That was it. They weren't even mean! I was treated nicely, and told to have a good flight. Now I'm sitting at the gate, completely indistinguishable from the other passengers, the ones who brought their government-issued photo ID. Nobody knows!!! No one is staring! The woman across from me has a styrofoam cup that she could hurl at me, but she's not even thinking about it. I'm typing on my laptop, and looking forward to my aisle seat.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-363042784257782711?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/363042784257782711/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=363042784257782711' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/363042784257782711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/363042784257782711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/succesfully-flew-without-id-washington.html' title='Successfully flew without ID, Washington Reagan, January 9'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-3706428709322039364</id><published>2008-01-14T12:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-17T09:38:31.687-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='airtran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gpt'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew without ID, Gulfport, January, 2008</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.southchathamcommunitychurch.org/mississippi_mission3_images/DSC09674.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.southchathamcommunitychurch.org/mississippi_mission3_images/DSC09674.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport&lt;/strong&gt;: Gulfport-Biloxi Regional Airport (GPT)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date&lt;/strong&gt;: January, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given&lt;/strong&gt;: Lost ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="http://chrisconner.blogspot.com/2008/01/sometimes-you-get-lucky.html"&gt;Chris Connor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline&lt;/strong&gt;: AirTran&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result&lt;/strong&gt;: Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: My return trip was uneventful, but I can say that TSA in Gulfport was very thorough. As they went through all of my pants pockets, hat, jacket, shoes, and every lens, camera, and pocket on my camera bag I began to hope that they were going to find my license! It was not to be, but I did find out that the TSA screener was a photography buff and liked my equipment.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-3706428709322039364?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/3706428709322039364/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=3706428709322039364' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3706428709322039364'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3706428709322039364'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/successfully-flew-without-id-gulfport.html' title='Successfully flew without ID, Gulfport, January, 2008'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-1527760790358375277</id><published>2008-01-14T12:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-17T09:40:07.869-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dfw'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='airtran'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><title type='text'>Successfully flew without ID, Dallas/Fort Worth, January, 2008</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.teamster.org/images/divisions/airline/fairnessatairtran/Airtran-logo-web.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 185px; height: 120px;" src="http://www.teamster.org/images/divisions/airline/fairnessatairtran/Airtran-logo-web.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airport:&lt;/strong&gt; Dallas/Ft Worth (DFW)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ID Offered:&lt;/strong&gt; None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Date:&lt;/strong&gt; January, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reason given:&lt;/strong&gt; Lost ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Reference:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="http://chrisconner.blogspot.com/2008/01/sometimes-you-get-lucky.html"&gt;Chris Connor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Airline: &lt;/strong&gt;AirTran&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Result:&lt;/strong&gt; Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Description&lt;/strong&gt;: I explained my situation to the Air Tran agent and she told me that it was possible to travel without ID, but I would be subjected to a more thorough check from TSA. Going through the DFW Airport TSA security checkpoint took a little longer, but they were very understanding and helpful. They provided me with a few phone numbers to call just in case my license was found or returned. While I was waiting on my flight, I made all of the necessary phone calls to the numbers the provided, but the license was still lost.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-1527760790358375277?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/1527760790358375277/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=1527760790358375277' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1527760790358375277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1527760790358375277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/successfully-flew-without-id-dallasfort.html' title='Successfully flew without ID, Dallas/Fort Worth, January, 2008'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-7994833367236913913</id><published>2008-01-11T13:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-11T13:17:53.940-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='realid'/><title type='text'>Chertoff suggests thousands will get secondary screening during the first steps of REALID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://salon.glenrose.net/img/chertoff.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://salon.glenrose.net/img/chertoff.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;We have heard that under REALID, everyone will require a REALID to fly. However, at least during the early steps, it appears that fliers without a REALID may all be subject to a secondary screening. That will include lots of people from states who haven't adhered to the new rules. Obviously, this is not actually practical, but it makes an interesting threat.  From the &lt;a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-licenses12jan12,0,60101.story?coll=la-home-center"&gt;AP article&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who was unveiling final details of the REAL ID Act's rules today, said that if states want their licenses to remain valid for air travel after May 2008, those states must seek a waiver indicating they want more time to comply with the legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chertoff, as he revealed final details of the REAL ID Act, said that in instances where a particular state doesn't seek a waiver, its residents will have to use a passport or a newly created federal passport card if they want to avoid a vigorous secondary screening at airport security.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The new revelations bring up lots of interesting legal and constitutional issues. Suddenly, people from some states will be treated as second class citizens (and denied the right to travel?) because the federal enforcement refuses to recognize the legal documents of the state. More startlingly, people under 50 will be treated differently than those over 50.  That's right, initially those over 50 won't need a real ID, but those under 50 will.  I doubt that discrimination by state and by age in this manner will hold up in court, and I look forward to a quick demise of real ID by lawsuit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suddenly, moving about in this country seems a whole lot more scary.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-7994833367236913913?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/7994833367236913913/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=7994833367236913913' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7994833367236913913'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7994833367236913913'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/chertoff-suggests-thousands-will-get.html' title='Chertoff suggests thousands will get secondary screening during the first steps of REALID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-3447501725849339545</id><published>2008-01-09T21:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-05-13T12:03:18.623-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secret law'/><title type='text'>Supreme Court and being American without IDs: against the tide?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;By: Kawnipi, howtoflywithoutid.blogspot.com&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another ID case is at the Supreme Court. Today they are hearing&lt;br /&gt;arguments against a law in Indiana requiring ID to vote. People that&lt;br /&gt;don't have ID can vote, but have to travel to the county seat to sign an&lt;br /&gt;affidavit within ten days. Early indications suggest that the supreme&lt;br /&gt;court will side with the state and allow the stringent ID requirement.&lt;br /&gt;I have seen no discussion for this case about government imposing a&lt;br /&gt;requirement to carry ID, a requirement which otherwise does not exist,&lt;br /&gt;but perhaps it is becfause voting is so widely recognized as a&lt;br /&gt;privilege, and not a right.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Like several other cases surrounding ID, if decided in favor of the&lt;br /&gt;state, this case will contribute to the general movement towards&lt;br /&gt;requiring ID for survival and participation in American life.&lt;br /&gt;Currently, many regulations and customs de facto require showing ID to&lt;br /&gt;the federal government to move about, either to the TSA for flight or to&lt;br /&gt;Amtrak for trains, or, for example, to guards in federal buildings and&lt;br /&gt;court houses, or to local police upon request. As discussed in this&lt;br /&gt;blog, most fliers can usually fly without ID if they are willing to&lt;br /&gt;subject themselves to a more intensive screening. This provision of the&lt;br /&gt;secret law was revealed by the Supreme Court itself; however because the&lt;br /&gt;law is secret, this blog documents how it is subject to the whims of the&lt;br /&gt;executive branch.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want a guarantee of "life and liberty" without meddling from the&lt;br /&gt;government, but the bounds of liberty are always relative in society. If&lt;br /&gt;the ways of our society are moving towards requiring each person to&lt;br /&gt;carry a little plastic card, no matter if the law requires it or not,&lt;br /&gt;then as much as we may abhor it, to fight seems an uphill battle.  In&lt;br /&gt;fighting it, we lose some of our own enjoyment of life, and&lt;br /&gt;inconvenience those who don't hope for the same. Is this fight worth it?&lt;br /&gt;If this case goes to the state, perhaps we will all rethink how much&lt;br /&gt;time, energy and inconvenience we are willing to expend to stick up for&lt;br /&gt;our liberty, and for the rule of law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-3447501725849339545?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/3447501725849339545/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=3447501725849339545' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3447501725849339545'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/3447501725849339545'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/supreme-court-and-being-american.html' title='Supreme Court and being American without IDs: against the tide?'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6975963229316713502</id><published>2008-01-05T08:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-05T08:09:09.855-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unsuccessful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Newark'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='local police'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Unsuccesful at flying without ID at Newark Airport, November, 2007</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.signal8-2.com/patch.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.signal8-2.com/patch.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Newark (EWR)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;November, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8753995&amp;amp;postcount=210"&gt;sbm12&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Want to fly without ID&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Unsuccessful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;/span&gt; So yesterday I had another failed attempt to clear security without showing ID, this time at EWR. A supervisor was called, who then called the PAPD "to observe" and a "manager" who wouldn't give me his actual title and then when I asked for a spelling of his last name said "spell it any way you want" came over to instruct the PAPD guy to make sure that I was removed from the premises if I caused any more trouble. He asked if I was testing them, accused me of recording the conversation (I had my laptop open with an external EvDO card that he thought was a camera) and he suggested that I call the local news station and that they'd still refuse me access.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I got names and badge numbers and the like, and the most thorough secondary screening of my life - at least 6 different agents involved, followed by a significant debrief for the whole group of agents on duty - probably 8-10 folks standing at the back end of security when I finally did clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what do you say to the ID check agent? I'd prefer not to lie, so I don't want to tell a sob story about havin my license stolen or something like that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, who should I write to about this, other than my congress-critters? Anyone have the name/address of someone at EWR that would actually make sure that the TSA staff there gets appropriate training?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6975963229316713502?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6975963229316713502/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6975963229316713502' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6975963229316713502'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6975963229316713502'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2008/01/unsuccesful-at-flying-without-id-at.html' title='Unsuccesful at flying without ID at Newark Airport, November, 2007'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-1172974617672161139</id><published>2007-12-20T09:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-20T09:24:17.995-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='San Francisco'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='United'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='puff machine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Succesfully flew without ID, San Francisco, December 19, 2007</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: United&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: San Francisco&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;December 19, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt; Personal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Want to be a selectee&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;/span&gt; In the security line, I told the TSA agent that I want to fly as a selectee. She mumbled "you forgot your ID" and I responded "I want to fly as a selectee." She handed me off to another agent who scribbled "SSSS" on my boarding pass and directed me to a line for selectees, which shared a metal detector with a regular line. The only difference is that bins in our line were brown instead of grey. I let several people go ahead of me, since I had plenty of time before my flight and they were running late. The line was moving slowly but everything was orderly and pleasant. My items were swab tested (before I even caught up to them) and I asked for a manual pat down instead of going through a puff machine. No information was recorded, and no one asked to see my boarding pass after the initial agent directed me to the selectee line.  This has been one of the best experiences flying without ID.  This may be due to the fact that these agents at San Francisco are not actually TSA agents, but from a private firm. Their uniforms display labels of both the TSA and the private firm.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-1172974617672161139?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/1172974617672161139/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=1172974617672161139' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1172974617672161139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1172974617672161139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/12/succesfully-flew-without-id-san.html' title='Succesfully flew without ID, San Francisco, December 19, 2007'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2310599558519852199</id><published>2007-11-29T22:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-29T22:21:29.818-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secure flight'/><title type='text'>You only need to provide your first initial and last name to fly</title><content type='html'>Right in with the recent news that the TSA &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2007-11-29-secure-flights_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip"&gt;wants to collect full names, birthdays and genders &lt;/a&gt;as part of secure flight is the indication that currently &lt;strong&gt;you only need to provide your first initial and last name&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Does this mean that the airline only passes on your first initial and last name to the TSA, or do they pass along your full name if you give it to them?&lt;br /&gt;Either way, I assume this means that you are free to provide the airline with only your first initial and last name.&lt;br /&gt;I have always given my full name to the airline, but that meant that when the&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-recording-names-of-people-who.html"&gt; TSA recorded my boarding pass information as I chose to fly without ID&lt;/a&gt;, they got to record my full name because it was on my boarding pass. Although I have an uncommon last name, I would really prefer to only give my first initial and last name, and leave off the chance of the TSA keeping records that identify me more fully. Not for any&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;reason, just that it freaks me out that the federal government is keeping records of my movements.&lt;br /&gt;Even if the rule does go into effect, providing this additional information would be optional.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2310599558519852199?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2310599558519852199/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2310599558519852199' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2310599558519852199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2310599558519852199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/you-only-need-to-provide-your-first.html' title='You only need to provide your first initial and last name to fly'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4629338493716808941</id><published>2007-11-08T14:11:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-08T15:14:40.334-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='civil liberties'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secure flight'/><title type='text'>How to comment on Secure Flight</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.wku.edu/Library/dlps/gdoc_pix/We_The_People.jpe"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.wku.edu/Library/dlps/gdoc_pix/We_The_People.jpe" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Secure flight is the plan whereby the TSA would approve each individual traveller for airplane travel, rather than the current system where the airlines check travellers against a watch list and no-fly list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Written comments for secure flight must be received by November 21, 2007.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Please leave a comment&lt;/span&gt; even if you don't think it will help.  By my count there are only 291 comments as of today.  There should be thousands...&lt;br /&gt;Here's how to leave a comment.&lt;br /&gt;1. Go to &lt;a href="http://www.regulations.gov/"&gt;http://www.regulations.gov/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;2. Scroll down to &lt;/span&gt;"Optional Step 4" in the search box.&lt;span class="caps"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Select category "Docket ID" from the  dropdown menu. Paste "&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TSA&lt;/span&gt;-2007-28572" into the adjacent text box. Leave everything else as is. Press submit.&lt;br /&gt;3. To leave a comment, click on the callout image:&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/custom/theme/documentum/images/Comment1.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor: pointer; width: 17px; height: 17px;" src="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/custom/theme/documentum/images/Comment1.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  It is on the right hand side under "Comments&lt;br /&gt;Add/Due By".  To view other people's comments, click on the link under "Docket ID".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/secureflight/index.shtm"&gt;Here's&lt;/a&gt; the TSA's information about secure flight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;What is so bad about secure flight? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.unsecureflight.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;1. It violates your privacy&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/a&gt; The government would be collecting and storing large quantities of information about you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;2. It violates your explicit rights to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: bold;" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment#Petition_and_assembly"&gt;freedom of assembly&lt;/a&gt; because it &lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/000543.html"&gt;requires prior permission for you to travel&lt;/a&gt;. It also interferes with your implicit &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement#United_States"&gt;right to movement&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sba.gov/advo/laws/comments/dhs07_1102.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;3. It places an undue economic burden&lt;/span&gt; on airlines&lt;/a&gt; and would increase passenger delays.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A good overview of problems with secure flight is available &lt;a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/25/221835/65"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://weblog.liberatormagazine.com/2007/09/secure-flight.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4629338493716808941?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4629338493716808941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4629338493716808941' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4629338493716808941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4629338493716808941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-comment-on-secure-flight.html' title='How to comment on Secure Flight'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5522962466634652129</id><published>2007-11-07T14:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-07T14:43:43.218-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='portland'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='expired id'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>Portland, Expired ID, Successful, November 2007</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Portland&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: Expired driver's license&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;November, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://badgerbag.typepad.com/badgerbag/2007/11/i-hate-the-tsa-.html"&gt;Rachel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Expired&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;/span&gt;The TSA gave me shit because my drivers license had expired. I forgot about this and if I'd remembered could have brought my passport. And I have a current license, but lost my wallet and then used my old expired license figuring I will go back to the DMV so&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://badgerbag.typepad.com/flippinlizzie.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 111px; height: 149px;" src="http://badgerbag.typepad.com/flippinlizzie.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;on, and then haven't had time, and then forgot I had to do it. Soooo... it was super dumb, because an expired drivers license is still perfectly valid ID. The only reason it expires is to make you go back to the DMV to check your vision and if you are still competent to drive, or something. It's not like the ID-ness of it expires! There is your photo! Still very you-like! But the TSA is too dumb to realize that. And so put me down as having NO ID. Which also is no big deal and just means you go in a different line, which as a crippled person I do anyway, and they frisk you extra (which they do anyway since I'm crippled, naturally) and search my bag by hand.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5522962466634652129?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5522962466634652129/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5522962466634652129' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5522962466634652129'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5522962466634652129'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/portland-expired-id-successful-november.html' title='Portland, Expired ID, Successful, November 2007'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6547066243473614363</id><published>2007-11-01T21:15:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2008-01-17T09:34:40.690-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Fly without ID: The How-To Guide</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;There is a lot of good information that, at one time or another, I have provided in the sidebars. It is archived here (and regularly updated).  Last updated Jan 17, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Other FAQs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="widget-content"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Q. Can TSA look through my wallet to see if I have ID?&lt;br /&gt;A. They probably shouldn't do this, but it has happened several &lt;a href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619444&amp;amp;highlight=wallet"&gt;times&lt;/a&gt;. They have also been known to &lt;a href="http://practicalnomad.org/blog/archives/001065.html"&gt;photocopy&lt;/a&gt; personal papers (although the TSA has &lt;a href="http://practicalnomad.org/blog/archives/001081.html"&gt;denied&lt;/a&gt; this).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Can I refuse to be subjected to a search once I have entered the security area?&lt;br /&gt;A. No. You consent to a search by entering the security area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q. Why doesn't the airline check my ID before I board the airplane? Wouldn't that make things more secure?&lt;br /&gt;A. &lt;a href="http://www.cnet.com/surveillance-state/8301-13739_1-9796425-46.html?tag=head"&gt;Money&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Q. Who are the ticket checkers?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A. In most airports, the ticket checker used to report to the airlines. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: normal;" href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582772&amp;amp;page=2"&gt;(Source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;) Recently, these ticket checkers were replaced by TSA agents (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: normal;" href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-checking-ids-at-airports-facism.html"&gt;see this post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Why this Blog Exists&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have the right, according to TSA (&lt;a href="http://www.cnet.com/surveillance-state/8301-13739_1-9769089-46.html?tag=head"&gt;see this letter&lt;/a&gt;), to fly without ID, if you are willing to subject yourself to extra screening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can proceed with your boarding pass directly to the security line. Tell the agent who checks credentials that you are choosing to fly as a selectee. They will usually mumble something like "you forgot your ID?". You can just repeat that you are choosing to fly as a selectee. The TSA agent will mark "SSSS" on your boarding pass and will usually send you to a special line for additional inspection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This inspection includes a hand check of your bag, swabs for explosives, and a puff test of your person in a big puff machine. You may refuse the puff test, and will get a manual pat-down instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Choosing not to show your ID to the TSA does not usually take much longer than going through the normal procedure, and in some cases may even be faster.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Previously, you needed to go to your airline's check in counter and ask to fly as a selectee so they can mark "SSSS" on your boarding pass before you go to the security line. This no longer seems to be necessary. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;If you need to check bags, or need to check in at the counter itself&lt;/span&gt;, some airlines may require ID for revenue protection. Please check the links above for information about individual airlines--most will accept  &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/alternative%20ID"&gt;alternative ID&lt;/a&gt;, such as a credit or library card.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In one case, the TSA &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;recorded&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-recording-names-of-people-who.html"&gt; information from a boarding pass&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;If you have successfully flown without ID or with non-governmental ID and would allow me to post your experience here, please email me the details at todaysprayer@gmail.com&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;You may lose the right to travel on airplanes without prior permission from the government.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-comment-on-secure-flight.html"&gt;Additional information and instructions on how to comment on "Secure Flight".&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Important Links&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://hasbrouck.org/blog/index.html"&gt;Edward Hasbrouck's blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.eff.org/"&gt;Electronic Frontier Foundation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.unsecureflight.com/"&gt;Unsecure Flight&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.papersplease.org/wp/"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Papers please&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=733246"&gt;Your right to fly without ID (proof at last)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;View posts where...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Passenger was... &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/successful"&gt;Successful&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Unsuccessful"&gt;Unsuccessful&lt;/a&gt; in flying without presenting ID to the government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Passenger reported to authorities that they&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Chose%20to%20not%20show%20ID"&gt; chose to not show ID&lt;/a&gt; or, alternatively, &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Lost%20ID"&gt;Lost ID&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Passenger was able to fly &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Completely%20ID%20free"&gt;completely ID free&lt;/a&gt;, or showed &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/alternative%20ID"&gt;alternative ID&lt;/a&gt;, or where the ID had &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/expired%20id" rel="tag"&gt;expired&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Passenger departed from &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/austin"&gt;AUS&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Boston" rel="tag"&gt;BOS&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Burbank"&gt;BUR&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/baltimore" rel="tag"&gt;BWI&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/reagan%20national"&gt;DCA&lt;/a&gt; /&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/dfw"&gt;DFW&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Newark"&gt;EWR&lt;/a&gt; /&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/gpt"&gt;GPT&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/jfk" rel="tag"&gt;JFK &lt;/a&gt;/ &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/LAX"&gt;LAX&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/midway"&gt;MDW&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/portland" rel="tag"&gt;PDX&lt;/a&gt; /&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Philadelphia"&gt;PHL&lt;/a&gt; /&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/San%20Francisco"&gt;SFO&lt;/a&gt; /&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/virgin%20islands"&gt;Virgin Islands&lt;/a&gt; Interesting experiences or news about &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Southwest"&gt;TSA &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/id%20checkers"&gt;id checkers&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/privacy"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Information concerning your&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/privacy"&gt; privacy&lt;/a&gt;, TSA keeping a &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/record%20of%20travelers"&gt;record of travelers&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/tsa%20enforcing%20corporate%20policy"&gt;tsa enforcing corporate policy.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Passenger travelled on &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Southwest"&gt;Southwest&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Continental"&gt;Continental&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/Delta"&gt;Delta&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/American"&gt;/ American&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/United"&gt;United&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/airtran"&gt;Airtran&lt;/a&gt; (Note: If you have a pre-printed boarding pass, you no longer need to interact with the airline to fly without ID). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;You may lose the right to travel on airplanes without prior permission from the government and invasive government databases. News on the frightening &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/secure%20flight" rel="tag"&gt;secure flight&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/search/label/realid"&gt;realID&lt;/a&gt; programs.&lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-comment-on-secure-flight.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text" id="Text1"&gt;&lt;span class="widget-item-control"&gt;&lt;span class="item-control blog-admin"&gt;&lt;a class="quickedit" title="Edit" onclick="'return" href="http://www.blogger.com/rearrange?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;amp;widgetType=Text&amp;amp;widgetId=Text5&amp;amp;action=editWidget" target="configText5"&gt;&lt;span class="quick-edit-icon"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The Mystery of "SSSS".&lt;br /&gt;NOTE: As of 12/2008, the answers to these questions no longer appear to be relevant. Since the TSA is now performing ID checks, there is apparently no requirement for the airline to mark "SSSS" on your boarding pass. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;This information is provided for historical purposes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(source:&lt;a style="font-weight: normal;" href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007/01/clearer-picture-of-how-to-fly-with-no.html"&gt; Chris Soghoian&lt;/a&gt; and others)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: If I don't have SSSS on my boarding pass, can I go through security without any ID?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;A: No. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: Will TSA write SSSS on my boarding pass if I don't have any ID?&lt;br /&gt;A: No. You must get it done by the airline. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;We will send you back to the airline.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Q: How do you know if I didn't just write the letters "SSSS" on the boarding pass myself&lt;br /&gt;A: TSA&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;: "We know. There are secret things that the airline staff will write that you won't recognize."&lt;/span&gt; Writing "SSSS" on the boarding pass yourself is probably illegal. Since all the laws are secret, we can't really know. According to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="font-weight: normal;" href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007/01/clearer-picture-of-how-to-fly-with-no.html"&gt;Chris Soghoian&lt;/a&gt;, "&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;as things currently stand, unless I've missed something, it seems that the only thing stopping you from flying without any ID on continental airlines, is a sharpie pen, and a willingness to break a couple rules."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline Guide&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;NOTE: As of 12/2008, the willingness of individual airlines to let you fly without ID may no longer be relevant. Since the TSA is now performing ID checks, there is apparently no requirement for the airline to mark "SSSS" on your boarding pass. This information is provided for historical purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="widget Text" id="Text2"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Southwest&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;- will quickly and efficiently (no questions asked) print you out a new boarding pass with "SSSS" or mark "No ID" with a stamp and some numbers on your boarding pass if you tell them you want to fly without ID as a selectee.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:100%;" &gt;Continental - &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;absolutely requires some form of ID (library cards, student ids or credit cards may work). Present this at the check in counter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="widget-content"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Northwest - &lt;/span&gt;will quite happily give you a special, machine-printed SSSS pass if you tell them you have forgotten ID.&lt;a href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007/01/clearer-picture-of-how-to-fly-with-no.html"&gt; Source 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Suggestion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;It may be easiest to print your boarding pass and bring it with you before you go up to the check in counter. You can use your confirmation number to print your boarding pass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6547066243473614363?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6547066243473614363/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6547066243473614363' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6547066243473614363'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6547066243473614363'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-to-fly-without-id-how-to-guide.html' title='Fly without ID: The How-To Guide'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-346503937580014870</id><published>2007-11-01T20:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-11-01T20:28:56.862-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Boston'/><title type='text'>TSA rifles through wallet, confiscates ID</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/382241458_200293e67d_m.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/382241458_200293e67d_m.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I have always wondered when flying as a selectee (declining to show ID) if the TSA might rifle through my wallet and find my ID for themselves. We know that we consent to a search of our belongings when we enter the security line, and that there is no option for refusal. While we have learned that the &lt;a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/20/1712254"&gt;TSA may record things like the books we read&lt;/a&gt;, I have always assumed that the search itself must be reasonable. However, &lt;a href="http://samarov.vox.com/library/post/the-tsa-took-away-my-fake-id.html?_c=feed-atom"&gt;Dmitry Samarov reports that the TSA rifled through his wallet&lt;/a&gt;, examined his ID, found one that was fake (although very old), called the local law enforcement, and confiscated it. I have previously pointed out another case where TSA agents rifled through a &lt;a href="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619444&amp;amp;highlight=wallet"&gt;wallet&lt;/a&gt; and asked a lot of questions. Our right to fly without presenting papers thus may be limited by the TSA rifling through our things to verify our identity. What are our rights when travelling?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-346503937580014870?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/346503937580014870/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=346503937580014870' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/346503937580014870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/346503937580014870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/11/tsa-rifles-through-wallet-confiscates.html' title='TSA rifles through wallet, confiscates ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/382241458_200293e67d_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-8525150329458357295</id><published>2007-10-23T11:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-23T11:35:31.802-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jfk'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>How to board a plane without ID -- be a pageant queen</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="366"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rOWtiaBDL7Y&amp;rel=1&amp;border=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rOWtiaBDL7Y&amp;rel=1&amp;border=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="366"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New York airports are now making security exceptions for graceful girls with big smiles. A tipster who saw the first episode (airing tonight) of MTV’s new reality show, “Pageant Place,” told us that when Miss Universe Riyo Mori forgot her ID while trying to board a flight from JFK to Bloomington, Ind., she convinced a TSA agent to let her through - by flashing her sash. “First she showed her head shot, but it didn’t work . . . so then she just pulls out her sash and the agent sent her through to security,” gasped the snitch.  &lt;a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/18/how-to-board-a-plane.html"&gt;more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-8525150329458357295?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/8525150329458357295/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=8525150329458357295' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8525150329458357295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8525150329458357295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-board-plane-without-id-be.html' title='How to board a plane without ID -- be a pageant queen'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-213470083306503038</id><published>2007-10-23T11:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-23T11:31:12.055-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='baltimore'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><title type='text'>Does your face need to match your ID?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span xmlns=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Angry veteran reports that the TSA doesn't care about matching your face with your ID:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally after all of this I went to the supervisor and attempted to ask him why no one looked at my face when they checked my ID. He told me they are looking for fake ID's more than anything else. I then asked him why it would matter if it was "fake" or not, if you don't look at the face on the ID. So as long as you have a real ID regardless if it is yours, you are all set to fly, as far as the TSA is concerned. To this he responded "I will talk to the ID checker". This useless ass though that there wasn't a problem with their security.  &lt;a href="http://weregonnagetourasskicked.blogspot.com/2007/10/illusion-of-security.html"&gt;more...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-213470083306503038?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/213470083306503038/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=213470083306503038' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/213470083306503038'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/213470083306503038'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-face-need-to-match-your-id.html' title='Does your face need to match your ID?'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-6566268961674161625</id><published>2007-10-19T12:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-19T12:38:27.204-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><title type='text'>No ID necessary says TSA, IDs to be checked with blacklight</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2007/10/18/06/791-238054-194291.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2007/10/18/06/791-238054-194291.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.star-telegram.com/407/story/272001.html"&gt;According to&lt;/a&gt; TSA spokeswoman Andrea McCauley:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Do you need a photo ID to fly?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, but you'll undergo "secondary screening," the more involved screening that some passengers find time-consuming and/or invasive. If many passengers arrive without IDs, that would add to wait times, officials said.&lt;/p&gt;Also, the Transportation Security Administration, which has taken over document-ticket screening at U.S. airports, is rolling out small black lights and loupes (magnifying lenses) to 1,300 specially trained screeners who check suspicious IDs in the ticket lines.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-6566268961674161625?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/6566268961674161625/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=6566268961674161625' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6566268961674161625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/6566268961674161625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-id-necessary-says-tsa-ids-to-be.html' title='No ID necessary says TSA, IDs to be checked with blacklight'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-1499231209246058934</id><published>2007-10-19T12:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-19T12:35:51.996-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secure flight'/><title type='text'>Secure Flight update</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.aclu.org/images/client/secure_flight.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 303px; height: 196px;" src="http://www.aclu.org/images/client/secure_flight.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;a href="http://papersplease.org/wp/2007/09/16/tell-the-feds-what-you-think-of-their-plans/"&gt;YOU MAY LOSE THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL ON AIRPLANES WITHOUT PRIOR PERMISSION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;a href="http://weblog.liberatormagazine.com/2007/09/secure-flight.html"&gt;Additional information about Secure Flight.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/12/flying_into_data_hell/"&gt;US demands air passengers ask its permission to fly | The Register&lt;/a&gt;: Under &lt;a href="http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/ContentViewer?objectId=09000064802ad5b0&amp;amp;disposition=attachment&amp;amp;contentType=pdf" target="_blank"&gt;new rules proposed by the Transport Security Administration (TSA) &lt;/a&gt;, all airline passengers would need advance permission before flying into, through, or over the United States regardless of citizenship or the airline's national origin.&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;The new rules mean this information must be submitted 72 hours before departure. Only those given clearance will get a boarding pass. The TSA estimates that 90 to 93 per cent of all travel reservations are final by then. &lt;p&gt;The proposed rules require the following information for each passenger: full name, sex, date of birth, and redress number (assigned to passengers who use the Travel Redress Inquiry Program because they have been mistakenly placed on the no-fly list), and known traveller number (once there is a programme in place for registering known travellers whose backgrounds have been checked). Non-travellers entering secure areas, such as parents escorting children, will also need clearance.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The TSA held a public hearing in Washington DC on 20 September, which heard comments from both privacy advocates and airline industry representatives from Qantas, the Regional Airline Association, IATA, and the American Society of Travel Agents. The privacy advocates came from the American Civil Liberties Union and the Identity Project. All were negative.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The proposals should be withdrawn entirely, argued Edward Hasbrouck, author of The Practical Nomad and the leading expert on travel data privacy. "Obscured by the euphemistic language of 'screening' is the fact that travellers would be required to get permission before they can travel."&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Hasbrouck submitted that requiring clearance in order to travel violates the US First Amendment right of assembly, the central claim in John Gilmore's case against the US government over the requirement to show photo ID for domestic travel.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In addition, the TSA is required to study the impact of the proposals on small economic entities (such as sole traders). Finally, the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;TSA provides no way for individuals to tell whether their government-issued ID is actually required by law&lt;/span&gt;, opening the way for rampant identity theft. ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-1499231209246058934?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/1499231209246058934/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=1499231209246058934' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1499231209246058934'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/1499231209246058934'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/secure-flight-update.html' title='Secure Flight update'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-704415818509349352</id><published>2007-10-19T11:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-19T11:59:07.864-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reagan national'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>Airline ID rejected at Reagan National</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: trebuchet ms; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;As with anything posted here, this could have been due to the whims of an individual TSA agent at Reagan National:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TSA agent checking boarding passes would not accept her airline ID as identification.  Her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;FAA-approved&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;, state-issued ID that allows her to walk through security gates at her own airport &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;without even taking her shoes off&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;.  It had to be a driver’s license, she was told, and only a driver’s license.  &lt;a href="http://mysternyc.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-and-pickle-principle.html"&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-704415818509349352?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/704415818509349352/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=704415818509349352' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/704415818509349352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/704415818509349352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/airline-id-rejected-at-reagan-national.html' title='Airline ID rejected at Reagan National'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2202934186566906622</id><published>2007-10-15T16:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-15T17:31:21.302-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa enforcing corporate policy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><title type='text'>TSA takes on primary ID checks at airports</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.use-inc.com/images/security1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 200px;" src="http://www.use-inc.com/images/security1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Here are more details about &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-checking-ids-at-airports-facism.html"&gt;my observation&lt;/a&gt; that TSA is now doing the primary ID checks at airports:&lt;br /&gt;September 26 was the first day that TSA took over the ID checking.&lt;br /&gt;                             &lt;script language="Javascript" type="text/javascript"&gt;if (self['plpm'] &amp;&amp; plpm['Mid-Story Ad']) document.write('&lt;table style="\" border="\"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align="\" valign="\"&gt;');if (self['plpm'] &amp;&amp; plpm['Mid-Story Ad']){ document.write(plpm['Mid-Story Ad']);} else {  if(self['plurp'] &amp;&amp; plurp['97']){} else {document.write('&lt;scr'+'ipt language="Javascript" type="text/javascript" src="http://cas.clickability.com/cas/cas.js?r='+Math.random()+'&amp;p=97&amp;c=6500&amp;m=42&amp;d=222802&amp;pre=%3Ctable+style%3D%22float+%3A+right%3B%22+border%3D%220%22%3E%3Ctbody%3E%3Ctr%3E%3Ctd+align%3D%22center%22+valign%3D%22bottom%22%3E&amp;post=%3C%2Ftd%3E%3C%2Ftr%3E%3C%2Ftbody%3E%3C%2Ftable%3E"&gt;&lt;/scr'+'ipt&gt;'); } }if (self['plpm'] &amp;&amp; plpm['Mid-Story Ad']) document.write('&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;News reports suggested that the process can now take almost an hour since Transportation Security Administration agents took over the job of checking travel documents on Wednesday. Prior to the change, airlines checked passengers' identification. The TSA says it will do a more thorough job, causing longer delays at checkpoints.  Passengers must still show their identification and tickets to security personnel, but the personnel are now government workers.&lt;br /&gt;As I mentioned in an &lt;a href="http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-checking-ids-at-airports-facism.html"&gt;earlier post&lt;/a&gt;, this means that TSA is probably now enforcing the policies of the airlines (unless they are letting people fly without ID who haven't been approved by the airline). I worry that this may be unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kktv.com/coloradonews/headlines/10140406.html"&gt;Source 1&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href="http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=78031"&gt;Source 2&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2202934186566906622?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2202934186566906622/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2202934186566906622' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2202934186566906622'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2202934186566906622'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-takes-on-primary-id-checks-at.html' title='TSA takes on primary ID checks at airports'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4209711146413821277</id><published>2007-10-04T17:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-04T17:24:27.214-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='virgin islands'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><title type='text'>St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands, August 2007, Successful after changing airlines</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Multiple&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands (STT),&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;August, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.suijurisclub.net/travel/579-travel-without-ids-works-fine-domestic-airlines.html"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Fly as a selectee/without ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful, after changing airlines and giving fingerprints&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;On my return trip I experienced I bit of a delay due to the ignorance of some of the personnel at the air line check-in counters. I tried some friendly arguing with them as best I knew how, mostly in the form of simple questions, but in the end I found that such an approach was not very fruitful as I am not likely to be able to teach anyone anything they didn't already know and because I also found that both TSA and the US Customs personnel claimed, as I understood them, that they were not allowed to provide any info or orders to any of the airline personnel. By my dialogue with various parties, including also the local airport police officers, I was able, eventually, to gather that the most likely solution to such ignorance is to simply go to another airline ticket counter and buy another ticket from them. I did so both in St Thomas (STT) and in West Palm Beach (PBI) and both times I was able to promptly get the required boarding passes without any further trouble.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally, before I learned to go to the next air line ticket counter for alternate travel, I learned that I could go through the US Customs at St Thomas prior to getting my boarding pass, thereby breaking the false presumptions of the airline personnel that the US Customs would not allow me to pass. By so doing I was routed to the Customs supervisory officer who courteously handled the situation by fingerprinting me, and by so doing recognizing me, by my God given identifiers – not by a Government ID - as having the rights of traveling within the 50 states of the union.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4209711146413821277?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4209711146413821277/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4209711146413821277' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4209711146413821277'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4209711146413821277'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/st-thomas-us-virgin-islands-stt-august.html' title='St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands, August 2007, Successful after changing airlines'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-8304997285547924994</id><published>2007-10-04T17:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-04T17:25:08.215-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='International'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='LAX'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>LAX to Virgin Islands, Successful, August 2007</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: ??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: LAX&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;August, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.suijurisclub.net/travel/579-travel-without-ids-works-fine-domestic-airlines.html"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Andy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Fly as a selectee/without ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the latter half of August this year (2007) I traveled from Los Angeles (LAX) to St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands (STT) and back without using any government issued IDs, passports, or indeed any identification documents issued by man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When asked for my IDs I simply answered: "I am traveling without IDs today." I was then promptly and without further comments issued a special boardingpass with an "SSSS" code which was highlighted in yellow and/or circled, after which I was able to proceed onto my plane without further trouble. However, I was urged to make certain that I got the TSA stamp upon the boarding passes while going through the TSA security check. Said stamp was obtained without any further initiative from my side. Because of my traveling without IDs I did get an extra careful security check including also my bags. (There were no further security checks when transferring between planes of the same airline at other airports.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-8304997285547924994?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/8304997285547924994/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=8304997285547924994' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8304997285547924994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8304997285547924994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/lax-to-virgin-islands-successful.html' title='LAX to Virgin Islands, Successful, August 2007'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-7645627205448841213</id><published>2007-10-02T18:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T19:06:00.327-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='record of travelers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='privacy'/><title type='text'>TSA now recording names of people who fly without ID</title><content type='html'>At Midway airport this past weekend, when I chose to fly without ID, the TSA agent took my boarding pass and wrote down the majority of information from the boarding pass (Name, flight into, destination, confirmation number) onto a form. I asked her what the form was, and if I could have a copy, and she basically indicated to me that it was not my business. (Note that no forms were filled out on my return trip through Philly.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brings up a number of rather important questions:&lt;br /&gt;1. Is there a statute or rule that allows the TSA to routinely record traveler information, with or without an ID?&lt;br /&gt;2. How long does the TSA store this information for, and what is it used for? Do travelers have a right to check the accuracy of the information, or to have it expunged?&lt;br /&gt;3. Is this really a secret form that citizens are not allowed to have a copy of? If a traveler requests that information not be recorded will that traveler be denied passage?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-7645627205448841213?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/7645627205448841213/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=7645627205448841213' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7645627205448841213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7645627205448841213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-recording-names-of-people-who.html' title='TSA now recording names of people who fly without ID'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4395300037497649731</id><published>2007-10-02T18:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-04T16:57:05.938-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa enforcing corporate policy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='id checkers'/><title type='text'>TSA now checking IDs at airports - government enforcing corporate policy</title><content type='html'>For all previous airline travel since ID checking began, IDs were checked by representatives of the airline or airport. It was these ID checkers responsibility to check for a valid government issued ID, unless the traveler had been approved by the airline for an additional security screening, in which case they either ensured that the boarding pass was appropriately marked for TSA or directed the traveler to TSA's attention. Since no ID is required by the TSA, it was these representatives who both enforced the airline's ID requirement (usually assumed to be a source of revenue control) and did the screening for ID for TSA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that TSA has taken control of this process, it would appear that TSA is enforcing the airline's revenue control measures. Since TSA doesn't require an ID to fly, if a traveler cannot get the airline to let them fly without ID (e.g. Continental will not mark "SSSS"), will TSA enforce this corporate rule? At this point, it would then be easy for the TSA to suggest to each airline that they require ID, at which point they could deny the right to fly without ID despite their own rule.  Is the TSA enforcing corporate policies? Corporate policies limiting free travel that are enforced by federal officers seems one step away from facism.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4395300037497649731?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4395300037497649731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4395300037497649731' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4395300037497649731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4395300037497649731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/tsa-now-checking-ids-at-airports-facism.html' title='TSA now checking IDs at airports - government enforcing corporate policy'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4537008120626415217</id><published>2007-10-01T21:09:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-02T19:18:11.371-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southwest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philadelphia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><title type='text'>Southwest, Philadelphia, Successful, 9/31/07</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Southwest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Philadelphia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;9/31/07&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Personal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Fly as a selectee/without ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;As at Midway, Southwest handled my request to fly without ID as a selectee quickly and without a single word. However, this time, instead of stamping and writing on my boarding pass, the agent printed a new boarding pass with "SSSS" printed on it. I noticed upon getting up to security that TSA is now checking all IDs (on my return to Midway, I noticed the same there. See my post about this).  I pointed the "SSSS" out to the TSA lady, and she wrote "No ID" a bit bigger on the pass and sent me down the same line as everyone else (this is different than at Midway; also she didn't write anything down). I put my things into the XRay scanner, and the TSA dude looked at my boarding pass and sent me just to the side, where I was quickly patted down (no puffer here); they transferred my bag and about 30 seconds later the explosives test was done and I was sent on my way via a very nice TSA agent. Took maybe one minute more than my traveling companion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4537008120626415217?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4537008120626415217/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4537008120626415217' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4537008120626415217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4537008120626415217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/southwest-philadelphia-succesful-93107.html' title='Southwest, Philadelphia, Successful, 9/31/07'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-8469651111424988621</id><published>2007-10-01T20:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-04T17:37:31.690-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='midway'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southwest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='tsa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Southwest, Midway, 9/28/07, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Southwest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Chicago Midway&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: none&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;September 28, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt; personal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Asked to fly without ID/as a selectee&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;Upon asking to fly without ID as a selectee, the southwest agent immediately typed some information, took out a stamp and stamped something on my boarding pass (which I had printed at home), then took out a pen and wrote "no ID" and some numbers over the stamp.  I said "thank you" and went on my way. It was over in less than 30 seconds, and was no hassle at all.&lt;br /&gt;I got in the line and showed it to the ID checker. That person directed me to a TSA woman, who then wrote a bunch of information from the boarding pass onto a form, including, I think, my name and confirmation number, and flight information. She then escorted me to a separate screening area where I waited for them to fix the puffer machine.  After several minutes, I went through the puffer machine.  A few minutes later, they finished explosive testing my single bag, and I was on my way.  I was a few minutes behind my travel companion.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-8469651111424988621?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/8469651111424988621/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=8469651111424988621' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8469651111424988621'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8469651111424988621'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/10/southwest-midway-92807-succesful.html' title='Southwest, Midway, 9/28/07, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-8014472616413859518</id><published>2007-09-24T15:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-04T17:34:18.408-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Burbank'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Southwest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><title type='text'>Southwest, Burbank, August 2007, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Southwest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Burbank, CA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;August 7, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2007/aug/26/missing-id-incident-flies-in-the-face-of-airline/"&gt;Colleen Cason&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Forgot ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;Kitty LaPolla, an 82-year-old Camarillo resident, didn't have to show any stinkin' badges when she went through security at Burbank Airport on Aug. 7. At check-in, the gregarious great-grandmother discovered she had left her wallet with her driver's license at home. The Southwest Airlines ticket agent offered several suggestions on how LaPolla might get her ID to the airport in time to make her flight. None of those flew. No one has a key to her apartment except the manager, and it was too early to reach him. LaPolla can probably talk the chicken off the bone. This lady, who was in fact the 1998 Camarillo Chamber of Commerce's Senior of the Year, has survived cancer and the loss of her son in the Vietnam War. She started college at age 62 and became a reserve deputy sheriff in Imperial County at 65. For years, she served as a teacher's aide at El Rancho Structured School in Camarillo. "Basically I'm feisty as hell," she shared. This strong woman's primary weakness is playing the penny slots, which is why she wanted to visit a friend in Arkansas. The two planned a road trip to casinos up and down the Mississippi River. So the ticket agent had a dilemma. Delay and inconvenience a little, old lady or play hard ball on the ID issue. She relented, scrawling "NO ID" on her boarding pass and sent LaPolla on her way. The agent followed the rules, according to Paula Berg, spokeswoman for Southwest Airlines. "There are circumstances where we make allowances, such as passengers whose purses or wallets are stolen on their way to the airport," Berg said.. Contrary to what most of us believe, TSA rules state passengers can travel without ID if they agree to have their carry-on bags searched. LaPolla did just that. Or as she puts it, "I had to go through all that bologna."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-8014472616413859518?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/8014472616413859518/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=8014472616413859518' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8014472616413859518'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/8014472616413859518'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/southwest-burbank-august-2007.html' title='Southwest, Burbank, August 2007, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2824217685762735921</id><published>2007-09-17T15:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:17:30.753-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Continental'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lost ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philadelphia'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>Continental, Philadelphia, January 2007, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Continental&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Philadelphia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: Library of Congress photo ID&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;January, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007_01_01_archive.html"&gt;Chris Soghoian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Lost ID&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description:&lt;/span&gt;I flew from Philly back to Indianpolis today on Continental, and again got to try out the no ID experience (putting me up to a grand total of 5 flights without any ID at all, and 1 flight with my student ID).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used the easy check-in machine at the airport to print out my boarding pass (by punching in my confirmation code - no credit card/ID necessary). I then told the Continental employee behind the counter that I had lost my ID at a bar the night before, and that I wasn't going to be able to produce any ID. One key question she (and her supervisor) seemed to find important was if this was my outgoing, or return flight. It seems they're more willing to be a bit flexible if you're 'stranded' somewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like last time, I told them I had read in the New York times that you can fly without ID if you get a special "SSSS" boarding pass. They didn't seem to be too happy to know that I knew their secret SSSS code...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had handed over my boarding pass to them, and as she read me the rules, it seemed clear that she wasn't going to give it back to me without any ID. In the end, I handed over my Library of Congress 'reader' photo ID, and she wrote "SSS" (her mistake, not mine) on the boarding pass in ink.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once I got to the TSA checkpoint, I told them I didn't have a single piece of ID - which worked just fine. Sure, I got checked, but I didn't have to show them anything at all, other than the marked boarding pass.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2824217685762735921?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2824217685762735921/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2824217685762735921' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2824217685762735921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2824217685762735921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/airline-continental-airport.html' title='Continental, Philadelphia, January 2007, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-7373626623684951694</id><published>2007-09-17T11:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:18:07.700-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='San Francisco'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='American'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='alternative ID'/><title type='text'>American, January 2007, San Francisco, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: American&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: San Francisco (SFO)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: Credit card, Co-Op membership&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;January, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007_01_01_archive.html"&gt;Chris Soghoian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Choice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;When I flew back from San Francisco this morning, it was my first attempt ever to fly on American Airlines without ID.&lt;br /&gt;Every single time I've attempted to fly without ID, i've been able to successfully avoid showing TSA a single piece of ID - the tricky part is trying to get your boarding pass and check a bag without showing anything to the airline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;American demanded 'some' form of ID. I didnt' want to argue too much, so I whipped out a credit card and my Bloomingfoods Organic Food Co-Op membership card, gave it to the agent, and then she printed me out a special SSSS boarding pass - AA is high tech, and doesn't seem to resort to sharpie pens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fun started once I got to the TSA checkpoint.  [&lt;a href="http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007_01_01_archive.html"&gt;more...&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-7373626623684951694?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/7373626623684951694/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=7373626623684951694' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7373626623684951694'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/7373626623684951694'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/american-january-2007-san-francisco.html' title='American, January 2007, San Francisco, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4283824472398233245</id><published>2007-09-17T10:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:19:25.547-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unsuccessful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Delta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='austin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Delta, Austin, August 2007, Unsuccessful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Delta&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Austin, TX&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: ???&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;8/9/2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/10502"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;Jack Blood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Choice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Not successful, due to airline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;Today I tried to catch a flight from Austin TX to Atlanta GA and was denied by a chubby Chinese Delta airlines supervisor (I will call him Harry Fong) because I didnt have a "Government issued ID" . I have flown many times in the past without ID, but never on Delta who for whatever reason have a non negotiable policy on flying without ID. Fong seemed a bit too happy about the outcome, and his eyes lit up a little to much when saying "Government Issued ID."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4283824472398233245?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4283824472398233245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4283824472398233245' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4283824472398233245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4283824472398233245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/delta-austin-august-2007-unsuccessful.html' title='Delta, Austin, August 2007, Unsuccessful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-2224095400013836828</id><published>2007-09-17T10:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:20:24.533-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Delta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Delta, March 2007, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Delta&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: ??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;March, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/03/10/flying-without-id/"&gt;syzygy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Choice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful, after airline resistance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;Since the flight out was rather smooth through security, I didn’t expect much of a problem on my return flight. Flying Delta this time, the agent at the desk did not want to let me check my bags. She kept insisting that it was federal law for me to show ID and that she can’t let me check bags without it. After arguing with her for about 10 minutes, I demanded to see the supervisor. She left for a minute and, when she came back, printed my tickets and took my checked bags. When handing me my tickets (with SSSS boldly printed), she claimed the only reason they were letting me fly was because this was my returning flight. If that was true, getting on a plane would be as easy as claiming you were returning home. Other than that, getting through security was easy. Again, they bumped me to the front of an, admittedly short, line, and did similar procedures as my first flight. The TSA agent was very nice, did a quick frisk, and a quick look through my bag. He did not swab everything in my bag this time, doing only the zippers on the bag, my cell phone, my shoes, and my laptop.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-2224095400013836828?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/2224095400013836828/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=2224095400013836828' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2224095400013836828'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/2224095400013836828'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/delta-march-2007.html' title='Delta, March 2007, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-4742900801296116320</id><published>2007-09-17T09:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:21:46.722-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='United'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='successful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Completely ID free'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>United Airlines, March, 2007, Successful</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: United&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: ??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;March, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.syzygytech.com/2007/03/10/flying-without-id/"&gt;syzygy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Choice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;Successful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description: &lt;/span&gt;the lady at the United desk was quite helpful and didn’t ask any questions about why I did not have ID. She printed me new tickets with bold “SSSS” printed several times on the ticket and told me that I would need to go through extra security. The TSA workers were also quite friendly and did not pose a problem. They bumped me to the front of the line to go through the metal dector machine, and then took me to a side area for a hand search of my carry-on bag. The first thing they did was use a hand metal detector and wand me again, and then did a quick pat down on my arms and legs. A frisk seems quite unecessary to me, and the only saving grace was the fact that the guy didn’t seem to want to do it any more than I did. The agent was very nice and told me exactly what he was going to do beforehand. After the frisk, the TSA agent swabbed all items in my carry-on and ran the swap through a explosive detection machine. Every item was swabbed individually, making this the most time consiming part of the search. The last item that the TSA agent swabbed was my TI-89 calculator, which, unfortunately, set off the explosive detection machine. A simple rerun through the x-ray machine satisified the supervising agent and they sent me on my way. Overall, the first flight security was OK, and took about 10 minutes total.&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-4742900801296116320?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/4742900801296116320/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=4742900801296116320' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4742900801296116320'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/4742900801296116320'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/united-airlines-march-2007-successful.html' title='United Airlines, March, 2007, Successful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7414065586581369068.post-5153798406927864391</id><published>2007-09-17T09:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-09-17T15:22:20.197-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unsuccessful'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Newark'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Continental'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chose to not show ID'/><title type='text'>Continental, Newark, April 2007, Unsuccessful</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airline&lt;/span&gt;: Continental&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Airport&lt;/span&gt;: Newark&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ID Offered&lt;/span&gt;: None&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Date: &lt;/span&gt;April 30, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reference&lt;/span&gt;: personal experience&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Reason given: &lt;/span&gt;Choice&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Result: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Not successful; airline resistance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Description&lt;/span&gt;: I started by asking Continental to mark my boarding pass as a selectee. Continental refused to mark my boarding pass without some form of ID.  The rent-a-cops who check ID refused to let me talk to TSA.  Continental Manager had never heard of someone flying without ID. I eventually relented and showed the rent-a-cops my ID so I could fly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7414065586581369068-5153798406927864391?l=flywithoutid.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/feeds/5153798406927864391/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7414065586581369068&amp;postID=5153798406927864391' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5153798406927864391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7414065586581369068/posts/default/5153798406927864391'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://flywithoutid.blogspot.com/2007/09/continental-newark-april-2007-not-able.html' title='Continental, Newark, April 2007, Unsuccessful'/><author><name>kawnipi</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
